This post seems doomed to low karma regardless of its quality. You’ll get downvotes from people who support aggressive SJ activism, people who think it’s very bad and we should fight it, and people who think talking about this at all in public is unwise.
Not that that low karma necessarily means it shouldn’t have been written. I fall somewhere between the second group and the third, but I didn’t downvote this. I don’t fully agree with the argument laid out here (if I did, I think I’d probably think the post shouldn’t have been published), but I’m moderately glad the post exists.
I really don’t like this about the voting system. My read is that you (Chichiko) provided some points on one side of an uncomfortable discussion. Most readers seem to overall agree with the other side. My impression is that they used their downvotes to voice their high level opinion, rather than because they found your specific points to be bad.
I feel quite strange about this but feel that we’re in some kind of meta-level argument of censorship; that any points in-favor of occasional censorship quickly get censored. By downvoting this piece so much, that’s kind of what’s happening.
I think, with our limited capacity for social consensus, and our high-IQ bias towards being contrarian, having the norm of bashing (not censoring per se) pro-censorship ideas is beneficial.
This post seems doomed to low karma regardless of its quality. You’ll get downvotes from people who support aggressive SJ activism, people who think it’s very bad and we should fight it, and people who think talking about this at all in public is unwise.
Not that that low karma necessarily means it shouldn’t have been written. I fall somewhere between the second group and the third, but I didn’t downvote this. I don’t fully agree with the argument laid out here (if I did, I think I’d probably think the post shouldn’t have been published), but I’m moderately glad the post exists.
I really don’t like this about the voting system. My read is that you (Chichiko) provided some points on one side of an uncomfortable discussion. Most readers seem to overall agree with the other side. My impression is that they used their downvotes to voice their high level opinion, rather than because they found your specific points to be bad.
I feel quite strange about this but feel that we’re in some kind of meta-level argument of censorship; that any points in-favor of occasional censorship quickly get censored. By downvoting this piece so much, that’s kind of what’s happening.
I think, with our limited capacity for social consensus, and our high-IQ bias towards being contrarian, having the norm of bashing (not censoring per se) pro-censorship ideas is beneficial.
There are 34 votes on this post, so at least I’m comforted slightly by the nonzero number of people who think it’s not terrible.