I recall Hsiung being in favour of conducting disruptive protests against EAG 2015:
I honestly think this is an opportunity. “EAs get into fight with Elon Musk over eating animals” is a great story line that would travel well on both social and possibly mainstream media.
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Organize a group. Come forward with an initially private demand (and threaten to escalate, maybe even with a press release). Then start a big fight if they don’t comply.
Even if you lose, you still win because you’ll generate massive dialogue!
It is unclear whether the motivation was more ‘blackmail threats to stop them serving meat’ or ‘as Elon Musk will be there we can co-opt this to raise our profile’. Whether Hsiung calls himself an EA or not, he evidently missed the memo on ‘eschew narrow minded obnoxious defection against others in the EA community’.
For similar reasons, it seems generally wiser for a community not to help people who previously wanted to throw it under the bus.
This was posted to a relatively large (> 100 people) but private FB groups where various people who were active in EA and animal activism were talking to each other. I can confirm that it is accurate (since I am still part of the group).
I think he wouldn’t have thought of this as “throwing the community under the bus”. I’m also pretty skeptical that this consideration is strong enough to be the main consideration here (as opposed to eg the consideration that Wayne seems way more interested in making the world better from a cosmopolitan perspective than other candidates for mayor).
I recall Hsiung being in favour of conducting disruptive protests against EAG 2015:
It is unclear whether the motivation was more ‘blackmail threats to stop them serving meat’ or ‘as Elon Musk will be there we can co-opt this to raise our profile’. Whether Hsiung calls himself an EA or not, he evidently missed the memo on ‘eschew narrow minded obnoxious defection against others in the EA community’.
For similar reasons, it seems generally wiser for a community not to help people who previously wanted to throw it under the bus.
Where does this quote come from?
This was posted to a relatively large (> 100 people) but private FB groups where various people who were active in EA and animal activism were talking to each other. I can confirm that it is accurate (since I am still part of the group).
I think he wouldn’t have thought of this as “throwing the community under the bus”. I’m also pretty skeptical that this consideration is strong enough to be the main consideration here (as opposed to eg the consideration that Wayne seems way more interested in making the world better from a cosmopolitan perspective than other candidates for mayor).