I didn’t claim that it was impossible to generate liquidity, but it’s not the “very common” thing of donating stock which was suggested.
I’m aware that there is ownership stake in private companies which can be transferred—that’s not the same as shares. Insider deals involving dilution and sales are subject to investor compacts, and I don’t know that SBF would have been able to do this. Even if he could, they’d need to sell the stake, which can be a problem—you can’t sell non-traded stake in a company to a non-qualified investor. So it’s not at all as simple as you’re implying.
What do you mean by “non-qualified investor”? Do you need to be more than a simple accredited investor? (for which anyone in the market would be anyway)
There are huge private equity firms that focus on buying venture secondaries. No one is talking about selling to individuals. There is also enormous demand for these, especially from firms unable to get into deals with primary capital. FTX raised far less than they could have in the 2019-2021 market to limit dilution, which is a totally reasonable strategy. The demand for exposure to FTX surely far outstripped the ‘supply’.
All I’m saying is that as a professional investor this is extremely common and uncomplicated, especially for hot venture companies. I have friends close friends who took tens of millions off the table in 21 through secondaries in far less exciting and earlier stage businesses. On if my neighbors works at StepStone and entirely focused on venture secondaries.
My broader actual point was this: I don’t blame Will or Nick or any of the FF people for this—this stuff is super niche financial markets minutia. My broader point/concern is around governance, financial controls, and funding strategy at EA orgs (looking in from the outside and reading a few case reports). If FF had a CFO they should/would have flagged the concentration risk and developed some proposals immediately. At the most basic level I just want you guys to hire some good finance people!
I didn’t claim that it was impossible to generate liquidity, but it’s not the “very common” thing of donating stock which was suggested.
I’m aware that there is ownership stake in private companies which can be transferred—that’s not the same as shares. Insider deals involving dilution and sales are subject to investor compacts, and I don’t know that SBF would have been able to do this. Even if he could, they’d need to sell the stake, which can be a problem—you can’t sell non-traded stake in a company to a non-qualified investor. So it’s not at all as simple as you’re implying.
What do you mean by “non-qualified investor”? Do you need to be more than a simple accredited investor? (for which anyone in the market would be anyway)
It’s complicated, and I don’t know the exact rules, but I think accredited is enough in this case.
There are huge private equity firms that focus on buying venture secondaries. No one is talking about selling to individuals. There is also enormous demand for these, especially from firms unable to get into deals with primary capital. FTX raised far less than they could have in the 2019-2021 market to limit dilution, which is a totally reasonable strategy. The demand for exposure to FTX surely far outstripped the ‘supply’.
All I’m saying is that as a professional investor this is extremely common and uncomplicated, especially for hot venture companies. I have friends close friends who took tens of millions off the table in 21 through secondaries in far less exciting and earlier stage businesses. On if my neighbors works at StepStone and entirely focused on venture secondaries.
My broader actual point was this: I don’t blame Will or Nick or any of the FF people for this—this stuff is super niche financial markets minutia. My broader point/concern is around governance, financial controls, and funding strategy at EA orgs (looking in from the outside and reading a few case reports). If FF had a CFO they should/would have flagged the concentration risk and developed some proposals immediately. At the most basic level I just want you guys to hire some good finance people!
Fully agreed.