From a Hollywood âwe sell drama as entertainmentâ lensâin a conflict someone has to be the âheroâ (they are right) the audience roots for and someone as the âantagonistâ (they are wrong) - who do you think thatâs going to be? To the victor goes the spoils⊠ultimately Sam âwonâ so do you think the representation will be in EAâs favor?
We can guess too from the press coverage from that time which was skewed largely pro-sam, anti-ea language, even from non-tech sources (finance, politics, entertainment). From the outside looking in, most people do not understand what EA is and therefore misconstrue our work because it is deliberately simplified in the press (and mixed in with the MIRI/âBay rationality crowd) to âthey think terminator will kill us allââwhich to the public at large (who, yes, is ignorant about the dangers of technology) but this sounds juvenile/âfear-mongering/âcultish.
(Which is why improving our communication of the issues to a lay audience is so critical and seems to be undervalued or perhaps bottlenecked by talent/âresources).
That, plus a general negative shift following SBF/âFTX still lingering on peopleâs mindsâŠ
Iâm curious as to why you just assume it will be a positive representation of EAs?
How did Sam âwinâ? The press coverage of him since the FTX collapse has been overwhelmingly negative. The EA movement has been caught up in that as collateral damage, but some works have criticized Sam for âtwistingâ EA, like the podcast Spellcaster.
...why you just assume it will be a positive representation of EAs?
No, Iâm not making any assumptions about the movies being released.
Iâm starting to realize we may be talking past each other because of different vantage points in the movement. Sam âwonâ the openai board coup by getting reinstated as CEO. He also âwonâ in the sense of positive optics given how much silicon valley rushed to defend/âsupport him during that situation. Your comment suggests weâre reading different press coverage, but specifically during that event, the press for Sam was positive and for the EA movement negative. Even now, I wouldnât say press for him has been âoverwhelminglyâ negative. Yes, the tides are shifting toward people being weary of AI, but imo that shift isnât happening fast enough. There is some positive press/âsupport for ai safety work, but I donât feel like itâs enough by comparison.
How do we know that the portrayals of EA in these films are going to be negative, let alone unfair? I think that suing is premature.
From a Hollywood âwe sell drama as entertainmentâ lensâin a conflict someone has to be the âheroâ (they are right) the audience roots for and someone as the âantagonistâ (they are wrong) - who do you think thatâs going to be? To the victor goes the spoils⊠ultimately Sam âwonâ so do you think the representation will be in EAâs favor?
We can guess too from the press coverage from that time which was skewed largely pro-sam, anti-ea language, even from non-tech sources (finance, politics, entertainment). From the outside looking in, most people do not understand what EA is and therefore misconstrue our work because it is deliberately simplified in the press (and mixed in with the MIRI/âBay rationality crowd) to âthey think terminator will kill us allââwhich to the public at large (who, yes, is ignorant about the dangers of technology) but this sounds juvenile/âfear-mongering/âcultish.
(Which is why improving our communication of the issues to a lay audience is so critical and seems to be undervalued or perhaps bottlenecked by talent/âresources).
That, plus a general negative shift following SBF/âFTX still lingering on peopleâs mindsâŠ
Iâm curious as to why you just assume it will be a positive representation of EAs?
How did Sam âwinâ? The press coverage of him since the FTX collapse has been overwhelmingly negative. The EA movement has been caught up in that as collateral damage, but some works have criticized Sam for âtwistingâ EA, like the podcast Spellcaster.
No, Iâm not making any assumptions about the movies being released.
Iâm starting to realize we may be talking past each other because of different vantage points in the movement. Sam âwonâ the openai board coup by getting reinstated as CEO. He also âwonâ in the sense of positive optics given how much silicon valley rushed to defend/âsupport him during that situation. Your comment suggests weâre reading different press coverage, but specifically during that event, the press for Sam was positive and for the EA movement negative. Even now, I wouldnât say press for him has been âoverwhelminglyâ negative. Yes, the tides are shifting toward people being weary of AI, but imo that shift isnât happening fast enough. There is some positive press/âsupport for ai safety work, but I donât feel like itâs enough by comparison.
Are you two talking about different Sams?
Just to clarify, by âSamâ do you mean Altman or Bankman-Fried?
Yes, sorry thatâs confusing iâll switch to last names; Lucaâs artificial is with altman.