RSS

Indi­rect long-term effects

TagLast edit: 16 Apr 2022 18:40 UTC by Leo

Indirect long-term effects are effects on the long-run future from interventions targeted at the short-term. Other terms that have been used for this concept or somewhat similar concepts include flow-through effects,[1][2][3][4] ripple effects,[5][6] knock-on effects[7][8][9] and cascading effects.

When evaluating the outcome of an action, a distinction can be made between the action’s direct and indirect effects. Although the boundary between these two categories is often imprecise, direct effects are those effects that are relatively obvious and intended. Indirect effects, in turn, are effects that are either non-obvious (i.e., it is difficult to determine whether or to what extent they follow from the relevant actions), unintended, or both.

For instance, reduced malaria incidence is a relatively direct effect of bed-net distribution, whereas more indirect effects may include improved education and increased GDP growth (which in turn may have even further long-run effects).

Many kinds of indirect effects have received attention within the effective altruism community, including negative side-effects of disseminating true information, negative-side effects of rule-breaking, and replaceability effects.

Further reading

Wiblin, Robert (2016) Making sense of long-term indirect effects, Effective Altruism, August 7.

Related entries

accidental harm | broad vs. narrow interventions | cluelessness | existential risk factor | forecasting | naive vs. sophisticated consequentialism | spillover effects

  1. ^

    Karnofsky, Holden (2013) Flow-through effects, The GiveWell Blog, May 15.

  2. ^

    Karnofsky, Holden et al. (2013) Flow through effects conversation, Jeff Kaufman’s Blog, August 19.

  3. ^

    Shulman, Carl (2013) What proxies to use for flow-through effects?, Reflective Disequilibrium, December 11.

  4. ^

    Wiblin, Robert (2016) Making sense of long-term indirect effects, Effective Altruism, August 7.

  5. ^

    Beckstead, Nick (2013) On the overwhelming importance of shaping the far future, Doctoral thesis, Rutgers University.

  6. ^

    Whittlestone, Jess (2017) The long-term future, Effective Altruism, November 16.

  7. ^

    Gaensbauer, Evan (2016) Effective altruism, environmentalism, and climate change: an introduction, Effective Altruism Forum, March 10.

  8. ^

    Greaves, Hilary (2016) Cluelessness, Proceedings of the Aristotelian Society, vol. 116, pp. 311–339.

  9. ^

    Snowden, James (2017) The economic benefits of malaria eradication, The Giving What We Can blog, January 18.

Helping an­i­mals or sav­ing hu­man lives in high in­come coun­tries is ar­guably bet­ter than sav­ing hu­man lives in low in­come coun­tries?

Vasco Grilo21 Mar 2024 9:05 UTC
11 points
8 comments12 min readEA link

Famine deaths due to the cli­matic effects of nu­clear war

Vasco Grilo14 Oct 2023 12:05 UTC
40 points
20 comments66 min readEA link

Shap­ing Hu­man­ity’s Longterm Trajectory

Toby_Ord18 Jul 2023 10:09 UTC
178 points
54 comments2 min readEA link
(files.tobyord.com)

[Question] Do you think de­creas­ing the con­sump­tion of an­i­mals is good/​bad? Think again?

Vasco Grilo27 May 2023 8:22 UTC
89 points
39 comments5 min readEA link

An en­tire cat­e­gory of risks is un­der­val­ued by EA [Sum­mary of pre­vi­ous fo­rum post]

Richard Ren5 Sep 2022 15:07 UTC
72 points
5 comments5 min readEA link

Sys­temic Cas­cad­ing Risks: Rele­vance in Longter­mism & Value Lock-In

Richard Ren2 Sep 2022 7:53 UTC
56 points
10 comments16 min readEA link

Ok Doomer! SRM and Catas­trophic Risk Podcast

GideonF20 Aug 2022 12:22 UTC
10 points
4 comments1 min readEA link
(open.spotify.com)

Do­ing good can­not be mea­sured in lives saved: the psy­cholog­i­cal value of community

Alex Berg24 Jul 2022 12:51 UTC
11 points
0 comments4 min readEA link

Cos­mic’s Mug­ger : Should we re­ally de­lay cos­mic ex­pan­sion ?

Lysandre Terrisse30 Jun 2022 6:41 UTC
10 points
1 comment4 min readEA link

Sam Bankman-Fried should spend $100M on short-term pro­jects now

Yitz31 May 2022 19:17 UTC
16 points
14 comments3 min readEA link

Should longter­mists fo­cus more on cli­mate re­silience?

Richard Ren3 May 2022 16:51 UTC
52 points
15 comments20 min readEA link

Sum­mary: Ev­i­dence, clue­less­ness and the long term | Hilary Greaves

Vasco Grilo15 Apr 2022 17:22 UTC
6 points
0 comments4 min readEA link

Lev­er­ag­ing fi­nance to in­crease re­silience to GCRs

PhilC17 Feb 2022 6:42 UTC
24 points
9 comments12 min readEA link

[Question] What’s your prior prob­a­bil­ity that “good things are good” (for the long-term fu­ture)?

Linch5 Feb 2022 18:44 UTC
69 points
12 comments1 min readEA link

The Three Peaks of the Long-Term Fu­ture

FeelingSentient23 May 2021 14:25 UTC
13 points
1 comment1 min readEA link

Ev­i­dence, clue­less­ness, and the long term—Hilary Greaves

james1 Nov 2020 17:25 UTC
121 points
83 comments19 min readEA link

Hedg­ing against deep and moral uncertainty

MichaelStJules12 Sep 2020 23:44 UTC
83 points
13 comments9 min readEA link

If you value fu­ture peo­ple, why do you con­sider near term effects?

Alex HT8 Apr 2020 15:21 UTC
95 points
78 comments14 min readEA link

Robert Wiblin: Mak­ing sense of long-term in­di­rect effects

EA Global6 Aug 2016 0:40 UTC
14 points
0 comments17 min readEA link
(www.youtube.com)

Five Ways to Han­dle Flow-Through Effects

Peter Wildeford28 Jul 2016 3:39 UTC
40 points
3 comments5 min readEA link

What is the ex­pected effect of poverty alle­vi­a­tion efforts on ex­is­ten­tial risk?

WilliamKiely2 Oct 2015 20:43 UTC
13 points
25 comments1 min readEA link