I personally haven’t found these arguments to be particularly persuasive, and most people around me seem to feel similarly about such arguments, if they are familiar with them at all.
Have you written somewhere about why you don’t find cluelessness arguments to be particularly persuasive?
No, I haven’t. Given the amount of upvotes Phil’s comment received (from which I conclude a decent fraction of people do find arguments in this space demotivating which is important to know) I will probably read up on it again. But I very rarely write top-level posts and the probability of this investigation turning into one is negligible.
This was now quite a while ago but I have spent some time trying to figure out why I don’t find cluelessness arguments persuasive. After we spent a bunch of time deconfusing ourselves, Alex has written up almost everything I could say on the subject in a long comment chain here.
Have you written somewhere about why you don’t find cluelessness arguments to be particularly persuasive?
No, I haven’t. Given the amount of upvotes Phil’s comment received (from which I conclude a decent fraction of people do find arguments in this space demotivating which is important to know) I will probably read up on it again. But I very rarely write top-level posts and the probability of this investigation turning into one is negligible.
Got it.
Perhaps a few bullet points in a comment if there’s no space for a top-level post (better written quickly than not at all...)
Hi Milan,
This was now quite a while ago but I have spent some time trying to figure out why I don’t find cluelessness arguments persuasive. After we spent a bunch of time deconfusing ourselves, Alex has written up almost everything I could say on the subject in a long comment chain here.
Thanks… I replied on that thread.