I admire what your doing here overall in terms of keeping up pressure on the Community Health team to do something about bad actors and asking tough questions, but I don’t see what in that link supports the claim Kat Woods and Julia Wise are particularly close. I mean it’s reasonable to suspect that if a small blog interviews someone from a small world like EA, the interviewee is a close friend of the blogger. But it’s very far from guaranteed, and no closeness is mentioned in the blog post itself.
I think the pertinent question here is primarily not “Were Kat and Julia close”, but “What standard should we hold the Community Health team to here”. If you updated significantly negatively on Julia/the Community Health team due to recent events, you might want to hold them to a standard closer to the one Morpheus is proposing. This is especially true if you view the cause of inaction closer to some kind of deferral/information cascade (they are well-established and well-regarded members of the EA community), rather than due to Julia’s close personal relationship with the people in question. I do think this may be a good opportunity for the community health team to regain some trust though, and I would be interested in hearing more about the Community Health team’s involvement too, and whether we should be understanding this as “Ben spent his time on something that the Community Health team should have done but actively deprioritized”, or “The Community Health team played an active role in this investigation”, or something else.
For what it’s worth, I actually strongly upvoted Morpheus’ comment. I just think ‘she once interviewed her’ is a bit unfair to cite as somehow evidence of corruption, regardless of how confident people should be in Julia Wise overall.
I admire what your doing here overall in terms of keeping up pressure on the Community Health team to do something about bad actors and asking tough questions, but I don’t see what in that link supports the claim Kat Woods and Julia Wise are particularly close. I mean it’s reasonable to suspect that if a small blog interviews someone from a small world like EA, the interviewee is a close friend of the blogger. But it’s very far from guaranteed, and no closeness is mentioned in the blog post itself.
I think the pertinent question here is primarily not “Were Kat and Julia close”, but “What standard should we hold the Community Health team to here”. If you updated significantly negatively on Julia/the Community Health team due to recent events, you might want to hold them to a standard closer to the one Morpheus is proposing. This is especially true if you view the cause of inaction closer to some kind of deferral/information cascade (they are well-established and well-regarded members of the EA community), rather than due to Julia’s close personal relationship with the people in question. I do think this may be a good opportunity for the community health team to regain some trust though, and I would be interested in hearing more about the Community Health team’s involvement too, and whether we should be understanding this as “Ben spent his time on something that the Community Health team should have done but actively deprioritized”, or “The Community Health team played an active role in this investigation”, or something else.
For what it’s worth, I actually strongly upvoted Morpheus’ comment. I just think ‘she once interviewed her’ is a bit unfair to cite as somehow evidence of corruption, regardless of how confident people should be in Julia Wise overall.