[This reply is written completely by me. No ChatGPT involved.]
Firstly, thank you for taking time to comment!
Secondly, I am really struggling now to decide which of what I want to say should come first for “Secondly”. Let me just take a risk. So, here it comes..
Everything that comes next, no matter how soft, strong, weird or anything they sound in terms of language/meaning, please interpret them with a degree of care and kindness (I’m sure you would) — including this sentence.
Although I feel quite certain that I wanted to let out my ideas, opinions I shared in my post, I was not completely certain how they should/would sound in the readers interpretation, especially in terms of English language, even though I said polished it with ChatGPT and said that “I acknowledge that I fully agree with it”.
I don’t want to sound/appear apologetic, defensive, unconfident, seeking empathy/pity for what I shared in the next sentences, but I think replying to you with these messages would just more likely help flourish your current interpretation of my post and even facilitate further discussion on the core ideas, messages presented in my post.
The post was only my very third time sharing such big bold (to my standards) opinions to English-speaking, intellectual/professional communities like EA Forum.
I am from completely different (or far) educational, professional, social, geographical background when it comes to topics like AI, consciousness, and science in general, and participating in such communities.
And I’m sure you already noticed, English is not my first language. I have been using English language in ‘professional settings’ (If you want, I can provide more info for what I mean by this) for over a decade, but not continuously, and definitely not yet on a community like this.
I think what I am trying say here is something like my ability to use and understand English language is not exactly/fully calibrated with my heartfelt intention to express my imaginations, ideas, feelings and have discussions about them in the way I want.
About two years ago, I encountered profound changes in my life. Among all the good and bad things that resulted, I have found exploring about consciousness, human existence, AI (I know it’s too general to just say AI, but let’s keep it short in the this comment) very exciting and have been trying to figure out If I should and would be able to explore even further and more practically about those topics. And by participating in communities like EA forum, I hope I will know more what to do next.
It takes courage to put yourself out there and plant a flag in a hill (sharing an idea that you profess strong conviction in).
I’m new too and lowkey I find it quite intimidating lol because there’s literally people who post around here that have enormous influence out in the world and have done big things, so knowing all that I wanna say good on you for putting yourself out there!
I think what Camille is hinting at is something called ‘the scout versus the soldier’ mindset, if you’re not familiar with it you may like to watch this Ted talk.
There’s also a really good forum guide which goes into it too, into the norms of writing around here and what kind of attitude is typically regarded highly (in other words how to write for this audience so they can receive your intended ideas with higher understanding and less misunderstanding).
Even though English isn’t your first language (or second lol) you put the arguments forward really clearly.
I believe I am picking up where you’re going, and if you haven’t already you may get a lot out of the book Ishmael by Daniel Quinn. This human chevanism you’re referring to creates lots of problems and offers a lot of utility when viewed rationally, it opens a lot of great discussions about language and how our expectations influence reality.
When you’re talking with ChatGPT it could even help to ask the robot to highlight the differences in the writing between soldier versus scout mindset, I haven’t tried this myself but I certainly want to now lol!
Thanks, I understand more of your background. Just to say, I really appreciate you posting on the forum! Hope I didn’t intimidate you, you’re absolutely in you’re right.
[This reply is written completely by me. No ChatGPT involved.]
Firstly, thank you for taking time to comment!
Secondly, I am really struggling now to decide which of what I want to say should come first for “Secondly”. Let me just take a risk. So, here it comes..
Everything that comes next, no matter how soft, strong, weird or anything they sound in terms of language/meaning, please interpret them with a degree of care and kindness (I’m sure you would) — including this sentence.
Although I feel quite certain that I wanted to let out my ideas, opinions I shared in my post, I was not completely certain how they should/would sound in the readers interpretation, especially in terms of English language, even though I said polished it with ChatGPT and said that “I acknowledge that I fully agree with it”.
I don’t want to sound/appear apologetic, defensive, unconfident, seeking empathy/pity for what I shared in the next sentences, but I think replying to you with these messages would just more likely help flourish your current interpretation of my post and even facilitate further discussion on the core ideas, messages presented in my post.
The post was only my very third time sharing such big bold (to my standards) opinions to English-speaking, intellectual/professional communities like EA Forum.
I am from completely different (or far) educational, professional, social, geographical background when it comes to topics like AI, consciousness, and science in general, and participating in such communities.
And I’m sure you already noticed, English is not my first language. I have been using English language in ‘professional settings’ (If you want, I can provide more info for what I mean by this) for over a decade, but not continuously, and definitely not yet on a community like this.
I think what I am trying say here is something like my ability to use and understand English language is not exactly/fully calibrated with my heartfelt intention to express my imaginations, ideas, feelings and have discussions about them in the way I want.
About two years ago, I encountered profound changes in my life. Among all the good and bad things that resulted, I have found exploring about consciousness, human existence, AI (I know it’s too general to just say AI, but let’s keep it short in the this comment) very exciting and have been trying to figure out If I should and would be able to explore even further and more practically about those topics. And by participating in communities like EA forum, I hope I will know more what to do next.
It takes courage to put yourself out there and plant a flag in a hill (sharing an idea that you profess strong conviction in).
I’m new too and lowkey I find it quite intimidating lol because there’s literally people who post around here that have enormous influence out in the world and have done big things, so knowing all that I wanna say good on you for putting yourself out there!
I think what Camille is hinting at is something called ‘the scout versus the soldier’ mindset, if you’re not familiar with it you may like to watch this Ted talk.
There’s also a really good forum guide which goes into it too, into the norms of writing around here and what kind of attitude is typically regarded highly (in other words how to write for this audience so they can receive your intended ideas with higher understanding and less misunderstanding).
Check it out if you haven’t already:
https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/yND9aGJgobm5dEXqF/guide-to-norms-on-the-forum
Even though English isn’t your first language (or second lol) you put the arguments forward really clearly.
I believe I am picking up where you’re going, and if you haven’t already you may get a lot out of the book Ishmael by Daniel Quinn. This human chevanism you’re referring to creates lots of problems and offers a lot of utility when viewed rationally, it opens a lot of great discussions about language and how our expectations influence reality.
When you’re talking with ChatGPT it could even help to ask the robot to highlight the differences in the writing between soldier versus scout mindset, I haven’t tried this myself but I certainly want to now lol!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Soe Lin!
Thanks, I understand more of your background. Just to say, I really appreciate you posting on the forum! Hope I didn’t intimidate you, you’re absolutely in you’re right.