Also, in my mind, vibe management comes under the same cluster of communication-related things (overlapping categories include: framing/language/presentation and PR/marketing etc) that people are generally pointing to in these conversations. You seem to just be saying that the diagnosis is too broad and that there is a subset of stuff that is the only problem and it all comes under “vibes”, which I disagree with (eg. see this comment and this comment for examples of something else I am trying to point to that doesn’t seem to be captured by “vibes” which I think are the sorts of examples posts like this one and this one[1] are trying to point at)
This comment also is, AFAICT, pointing to something true too—I think there is some narrow window in between that is maybe too high a standard but possibly worth aiming for (I’m yet to confidently decide) that we need some clear language to discuss in such a way that everyone is on the same page and can more easily find all the various relevant cruxes (if such language exists, not sure if my language will end up being that useful - but even if not, I think if there is such language that isn’t that hard to find, then it could be useful for facilitating double-crux finding!)
Also, in my mind, vibe management comes under the same cluster of communication-related things (overlapping categories include: framing/language/presentation and PR/marketing etc) that people are generally pointing to in these conversations. You seem to just be saying that the diagnosis is too broad and that there is a subset of stuff that is the only problem and it all comes under “vibes”, which I disagree with (eg. see this comment and this comment for examples of something else I am trying to point to that doesn’t seem to be captured by “vibes” which I think are the sorts of examples posts like this one and this one[1] are trying to point at)
This comment also is, AFAICT, pointing to something true too—I think there is some narrow window in between that is maybe too high a standard but possibly worth aiming for (I’m yet to confidently decide) that we need some clear language to discuss in such a way that everyone is on the same page and can more easily find all the various relevant cruxes (if such language exists, not sure if my language will end up being that useful - but even if not, I think if there is such language that isn’t that hard to find, then it could be useful for facilitating double-crux finding!)