Are you saying bc it’s not “surprising” it should be allowed? This rhetorical move of shaming your opponent for not having already gotten used to and therefore tolerating someone doing bad things I always find bizarre.
No—that something is unsurprising, even readily predictable, does not imply anything about whether it is OK.
The fact that people seem surprised by the presence of corpspeak here does make me concerned that they may have been looking at the world with an assumption that “aligned” people are particularly resistant to the corrosive effects of money and power. That, in my opinion, is a dangerous assumption to make—and is not one I would find well-supported by the available evidence. Our models of the world should assume that at least the significant majority of people will be adversely and materially influenced by exposure to high concentrations of money and power, and we need to plan accordingly.
Convincing such people that Anthropic is doing corpspeak and not just being perfectly reasonable or justified by 3D chess (with ultimate EA goals) would be a lot of progress...
It’s a huge problem in EA that people don’t take CoI that seriously as something that affect their thinking. They think they can solve every problem explicitly intellectually so corruption by money won’t happen to them.
Are you saying bc it’s not “surprising” it should be allowed? This rhetorical move of shaming your opponent for not having already gotten used to and therefore tolerating someone doing bad things I always find bizarre.
No—that something is unsurprising, even readily predictable, does not imply anything about whether it is OK.
The fact that people seem surprised by the presence of corpspeak here does make me concerned that they may have been looking at the world with an assumption that “aligned” people are particularly resistant to the corrosive effects of money and power. That, in my opinion, is a dangerous assumption to make—and is not one I would find well-supported by the available evidence. Our models of the world should assume that at least the significant majority of people will be adversely and materially influenced by exposure to high concentrations of money and power, and we need to plan accordingly.
Convincing such people that Anthropic is doing corpspeak and not just being perfectly reasonable or justified by 3D chess (with ultimate EA goals) would be a lot of progress...
It’s a huge problem in EA that people don’t take CoI that seriously as something that affect their thinking. They think they can solve every problem explicitly intellectually so corruption by money won’t happen to them.