I mostly don’t like the ‘justice’ process involved in other cases insofar as it is primarily secret and hidden. I don’t think it’s much of a justice system where you often don’t know the accusations against you or why you’re being punished.
The data on negative performance is also profoundly censored! I am not sure why you think this makes this more likely to make me update positively on the process involved.
I am pro having some surveys of people’s general attitudes toward CEA Community Health. Questions like “Have you ever reported an issue to them” and “To your knowledge have you been investigated by the CEA Community Health team” and “How much do you trust CEA Community Health team to protect the EA ecosystem from bad behavior” and “How much do you trust CEA Community Health team to respect you if you go to them” and “For how many years have you been involved in the EA ecosystem”. I think that would clear up this question substantially.
Fwiw, seems like the positive performance is more censored in expectation than the negative performance: while a case that CH handled poorly could either be widely discussed or never heard about again, I’m struggling to think of how we’d all hear about a case that they handled well, since part of handling it well likely involves the thing not escalating into a big deal and respecting people’s requests for anonymity and privacy.
It does seem like a big drawback that the accused don’t know the details of the accusations, but it also seems like there are obvious tradeoffs here, and it would make sense for this to be very different from the criminal justice system given the difference in punishments (loss of professional and financial opportunities and social status vs. actual prison time).
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I mostly don’t like the ‘justice’ process involved in other cases insofar as it is primarily secret and hidden. I don’t think it’s much of a justice system where you often don’t know the accusations against you or why you’re being punished.
The data on negative performance is also profoundly censored! I am not sure why you think this makes this more likely to make me update positively on the process involved.
I am pro having some surveys of people’s general attitudes toward CEA Community Health. Questions like “Have you ever reported an issue to them” and “To your knowledge have you been investigated by the CEA Community Health team” and “How much do you trust CEA Community Health team to protect the EA ecosystem from bad behavior” and “How much do you trust CEA Community Health team to respect you if you go to them” and “For how many years have you been involved in the EA ecosystem”. I think that would clear up this question substantially.
Fwiw, seems like the positive performance is more censored in expectation than the negative performance: while a case that CH handled poorly could either be widely discussed or never heard about again, I’m struggling to think of how we’d all hear about a case that they handled well, since part of handling it well likely involves the thing not escalating into a big deal and respecting people’s requests for anonymity and privacy.
It does seem like a big drawback that the accused don’t know the details of the accusations, but it also seems like there are obvious tradeoffs here, and it would make sense for this to be very different from the criminal justice system given the difference in punishments (loss of professional and financial opportunities and social status vs. actual prison time).
Agreed that a survey seems really good.