This is prohibitively vague. How do you operationalize this exactly? Can you give examples of when EA has achieved a consensus that is analogical with what you desire in this situation?
If e.g. Future Fund and Open Phil were to use it, wouldn’t that be a pretty strong signal, especially since they would want to derisk it pretty heavily before scaled up usage of it, with months of dialogue and planning? What are you looking for here that wouldn’t already happen as a matter of course during the significant amount of downside mitigation work that would need to happen while building and scaling it up in concert with grantmakers, donors, and charities, who are pretty risk-averse on average and will generally incline towards wanting to be satisfied with at least interim solutions to at least some of the downside risks we, you, and others have identified (and probably ones not yet identified)?
I am pretty happy with Avengers Assemble-ing some kind of group discussion on impact markets as a consensing vehicle, perhaps a virtual event on the EA Forum using Polis, maybe a pop-up event during EAG SF, if it will please you or meet some objective criteria you specify. I find this sort of thing generally desirable regardless (cost-willing) but I additionally want to know what gets your thumbs up specifically given my impression is you want to stop people doing anything before achieving this consensus, whereas I view this downside work as a thing done concurrently alongside the long and arduous road of the empirical work of building that will provide spades of course-correcting feedback.
about a specific potential intervention to create an impact market, before it is decided to carry out that intervention
Decisionmaking by committee (my current impression of your ask) on specific product versions is not how things get built, especially early-on, especially with multiple parties involved, and is a recipe for not getting things done. The space of decisions is way too high-dimensional and things change based on feedback. Approaching a consensus on the important parts of the general theory of impact markets early on such that robust net-positivity is agreed-upon seems much more tractable and important in comparison, as well as generally keeping people working in the field coordinated and in communication as they iterate through different parameters of their visions.
This is prohibitively vague. How do you operationalize this exactly? Can you give examples of when EA has achieved a consensus that is analogical with what you desire in this situation?
If e.g. Future Fund and Open Phil were to use it, wouldn’t that be a pretty strong signal, especially since they would want to derisk it pretty heavily before scaled up usage of it, with months of dialogue and planning? What are you looking for here that wouldn’t already happen as a matter of course during the significant amount of downside mitigation work that would need to happen while building and scaling it up in concert with grantmakers, donors, and charities, who are pretty risk-averse on average and will generally incline towards wanting to be satisfied with at least interim solutions to at least some of the downside risks we, you, and others have identified (and probably ones not yet identified)?
I am pretty happy with Avengers Assemble-ing some kind of group discussion on impact markets as a consensing vehicle, perhaps a virtual event on the EA Forum using Polis, maybe a pop-up event during EAG SF, if it will please you or meet some objective criteria you specify. I find this sort of thing generally desirable regardless (cost-willing) but I additionally want to know what gets your thumbs up specifically given my impression is you want to stop people doing anything before achieving this consensus, whereas I view this downside work as a thing done concurrently alongside the long and arduous road of the empirical work of building that will provide spades of course-correcting feedback.
Decisionmaking by committee (my current impression of your ask) on specific product versions is not how things get built, especially early-on, especially with multiple parties involved, and is a recipe for not getting things done. The space of decisions is way too high-dimensional and things change based on feedback. Approaching a consensus on the important parts of the general theory of impact markets early on such that robust net-positivity is agreed-upon seems much more tractable and important in comparison, as well as generally keeping people working in the field coordinated and in communication as they iterate through different parameters of their visions.