Agreed on many of the points, except the weird and creepy—I’d like to understand more about that. More broadly, my point as I stated in the beginning of the piece was to open up a discussion, not give definitive answers. I’d like to hear many other people’s thoughts on this.
reading again this was the bit i found wierd/creepy - For instance, to address the guilt people experience over their previous giving, to address cached patterns, and help people update their beliefs, it helps to use the CBT tool of reframing by encouraging themselves to distance their current self from their past self, and remember that they did not have this information about EA when they decided on their previous giving, making it ok to choose a new path right now. Another approach I found helpful is to encourage people to think of themselves as being at the ordinary human baseline, and then orient toward improving, rather than seeing oneself as never able to achieve perfect rationality in one’s giving.
But i actually don’t think these ideas are bad i just think the phrasing of them is off. the way you’ve wrtten this makes it seem a bit “oh we are the enlightened ones and here our our clever ways of manipulating you to join us” but i appreciate that is not what you meant—much more about EA as a movement of people who want to “do good better” than criticise people for not thinking same way we do or manipulate guilt.
Agreed on many of the points, except the weird and creepy—I’d like to understand more about that. More broadly, my point as I stated in the beginning of the piece was to open up a discussion, not give definitive answers. I’d like to hear many other people’s thoughts on this.
reading again this was the bit i found wierd/creepy - For instance, to address the guilt people experience over their previous giving, to address cached patterns, and help people update their beliefs, it helps to use the CBT tool of reframing by encouraging themselves to distance their current self from their past self, and remember that they did not have this information about EA when they decided on their previous giving, making it ok to choose a new path right now. Another approach I found helpful is to encourage people to think of themselves as being at the ordinary human baseline, and then orient toward improving, rather than seeing oneself as never able to achieve perfect rationality in one’s giving.
But i actually don’t think these ideas are bad i just think the phrasing of them is off. the way you’ve wrtten this makes it seem a bit “oh we are the enlightened ones and here our our clever ways of manipulating you to join us” but i appreciate that is not what you meant—much more about EA as a movement of people who want to “do good better” than criticise people for not thinking same way we do or manipulate guilt.
Thank you for clarifying what I actually meant to convey. I’ll work on phrasing it more effectively in the future.