Thanks Chana! I appreciate you thinking hard about this, and hope it’ll make us more careful and good.
Price. My EA coach is $60 an hour (with student discount), which is my only datum. Happy to amend given more data.
Retention. Yeah, you capture what I was thinking about with (3): not being a naive optimiser, not squeezing as many people into EA as you can despite their misery and lack of fit. The self-care link is pointing at the same vague spirit: don’t routinely crush feelings (in that case, your own). Both my and Damon’s instincts run pretty heavily against indoctrination, so we should be able to spot it in others. I don’t think we’ll set any policy about continuing to help people after they leave EA, that’s clearly a matter of conscience n context.
I take (1) and (2) pretty seriously, but Free Support Booking, the current leading idea, is designed to mitigate them ~completely: the idea is we book “external” (non-EA) support people. I just forgot to say this at any point. Only trouble is the money.
Parts. I’ll let Damon respond in full, but my take is: I don’t think that sentence is meant as a strong claim nor mission statement. Parts stuff is a mental model: often useful, always extremely unclear metaphysically. Taken metaphorically (“as if I had several subagents, several utility functions, internal conflict”), it seems fine. We haven’t designed the coaching yet, but it won’t involve intense IFS or whatnot.
I find it hard to think about the baseline risk of all psychological intervention (all intervention), which is what I take your concerned friends to be denoting. Going to a standard psychodynamic therapist seems similarly risky to me (i.e. not very).
Shoulds. Happy to flag it. (I personally get a lot out of shoulds, so we’re not the anti-should movement.)
Thanks Chana! I appreciate you thinking hard about this, and hope it’ll make us more careful and good.
Price. My EA coach is $60 an hour (with student discount), which is my only datum. Happy to amend given more data.
Retention. Yeah, you capture what I was thinking about with (3): not being a naive optimiser, not squeezing as many people into EA as you can despite their misery and lack of fit. The self-care link is pointing at the same vague spirit: don’t routinely crush feelings (in that case, your own). Both my and Damon’s instincts run pretty heavily against indoctrination, so we should be able to spot it in others. I don’t think we’ll set any policy about continuing to help people after they leave EA, that’s clearly a matter of conscience n context.
I take (1) and (2) pretty seriously, but Free Support Booking, the current leading idea, is designed to mitigate them ~completely: the idea is we book “external” (non-EA) support people. I just forgot to say this at any point. Only trouble is the money.
Parts. I’ll let Damon respond in full, but my take is: I don’t think that sentence is meant as a strong claim nor mission statement. Parts stuff is a mental model: often useful, always extremely unclear metaphysically. Taken metaphorically (“as if I had several subagents, several utility functions, internal conflict”), it seems fine. We haven’t designed the coaching yet, but it won’t involve intense IFS or whatnot.
I find it hard to think about the baseline risk of all psychological intervention (all intervention), which is what I take your concerned friends to be denoting. Going to a standard psychodynamic therapist seems similarly risky to me (i.e. not very).
Shoulds. Happy to flag it. (I personally get a lot out of shoulds, so we’re not the anti-should movement.)
Thank you! This makes sense to me.