Can you make the case clearer why “a group that pressures its members to give away their money” is in itself a bad thing? (Presuming we are talking about a small share of their money, let’s say 1-10%, to effective charities)
This will be hard for me to explain, but I’ll try. Please try to see what I’m pointing at even though my explanation won’t be perfect:
The way you see this sentence is “a group that pressures its members to give away [a small piece of their] money to [a good cause]”
The way a less informed person might see it is “a group that pressures its members to give away [a large amount even if a small fraction of] money to [a cause that the group claims is good]”
As a more extreme (unfair) example to emphasise what I’m talking about:
Imagine a sales person trying to convince you to buy something, and they’re telling you “it’s just a small fraction of your money!” and “this really is a really good product, check out all these reasons!”
Many people won’t even be able to sort through your arguments, the things that you understand on a gears level to be true.
I guess the share of income was a bit of a red herring. I’m more questioning “what is ‘pressures’ and what makes it bad?” The word pressures has a bad connotation but what are you actually concerned with in this context?
[As before, good question, and also I am not sure I have enough introspection ability to answer it, but I’ll try. I have a feeling Duncan Sabien would be really good at this]
Social pressure: Telling people that if they won’t do something, they’ll be rejected/outcast in a way that “hurts” in some primal way. I am not saying “never do this”. I am saying “this is a powerful weapon, use it with caution”
Getting someone to make a decision “in the heat of the moment” that the person might regret otherwise, or might not make this decision they thought about it for longer, or that some parts of the person are very much against this decision but don’t get to voice their opinion.
Maybe I’m missing something here.
Can you make the case clearer why “a group that pressures its members to give away their money” is in itself a bad thing? (Presuming we are talking about a small share of their money, let’s say 1-10%, to effective charities)
Nice question!
This will be hard for me to explain, but I’ll try. Please try to see what I’m pointing at even though my explanation won’t be perfect:
The way you see this sentence is “a group that pressures its members to give away [a small piece of their] money to [a good cause]”
The way a less informed person might see it is “a group that pressures its members to give away [a large amount even if a small fraction of] money to [a cause that the group claims is good]”
As a more extreme (unfair) example to emphasise what I’m talking about:
Imagine a sales person trying to convince you to buy something, and they’re telling you “it’s just a small fraction of your money!” and “this really is a really good product, check out all these reasons!”
Many people won’t even be able to sort through your arguments, the things that you understand on a gears level to be true.
What do you think?
I guess the share of income was a bit of a red herring. I’m more questioning “what is ‘pressures’ and what makes it bad?” The word pressures has a bad connotation but what are you actually concerned with in this context?
[As before, good question, and also I am not sure I have enough introspection ability to answer it, but I’ll try. I have a feeling Duncan Sabien would be really good at this]
Social pressure: Telling people that if they won’t do something, they’ll be rejected/outcast in a way that “hurts” in some primal way. I am not saying “never do this”. I am saying “this is a powerful weapon, use it with caution”
Getting someone to make a decision “in the heat of the moment” that the person might regret otherwise, or might not make this decision they thought about it for longer, or that some parts of the person are very much against this decision but don’t get to voice their opinion.