I won’t have much more time for this conversation, but just two points:
This is precisely why I don’t like EA both abandoning global poverty as a cause area
Is this actually true? To me global poverty was still number one in terms of donations, Give well is doing great, and most of the charity entrepreneurship charities are on this topic.
Can you imagine a worse corruption, a worse twisting of this than to allow talk about why Black people are more genetically suited to slavery than white people, or how Europe did Africa a favour by colonizing it, or how Western countries should embrace white nationalism?
Oh, yes, that would be awful. But I’d expect that virtually everybody in the EA forum would be against that.
And so far, in the examples you’ve given, you don’t show that even a sizeable minority of people would agree with these claims. For instance, for Manifold, you pointed to the fact that some EAs work with a forecasting organisation from the rationalist community who did a conference that invited many speakers to speak on forecasting and some of these speakers previously wrote some racist stuff on a topic unrelated to the conference (and even then that lead to quite a debate).
My understanding might be inaccurate, of course, but that’s such a long chain that I would consider this as quite far from a prevalent issue which currently has large negative consequences.
Thanks, I understand better the context and where you’re coming from. The stylé is easier for me to read and I appreciate that.
I won’t have much more time for this conversation, but just two points:
Is this actually true? To me global poverty was still number one in terms of donations, Give well is doing great, and most of the charity entrepreneurship charities are on this topic.
Oh, yes, that would be awful. But I’d expect that virtually everybody in the EA forum would be against that.
And so far, in the examples you’ve given, you don’t show that even a sizeable minority of people would agree with these claims. For instance, for Manifold, you pointed to the fact that some EAs work with a forecasting organisation from the rationalist community who did a conference that invited many speakers to speak on forecasting and some of these speakers previously wrote some racist stuff on a topic unrelated to the conference (and even then that lead to quite a debate).
My understanding might be inaccurate, of course, but that’s such a long chain that I would consider this as quite far from a prevalent issue which currently has large negative consequences.