Oh sorry, I thought you meant ‘did they leave negative comments about these things’. Lots of people looked at the overall report and were free to point out things I missed.
I still don’t really understand why you have such an issue with the methodology. I took my methodology to be—pick out all of the things in the climate literature that are relevant to the longtermist import of climate change, review the scientific literature on those things, and then arrive at my own view, send it to reviewers, make some revisions, iterate.
John, with all possible respect, that is not a theoretical framework.
I think one of your major errors in this piece (as betrayed by your methodology-as-categorisation comment above), is that you have an implicit ontology of factors as essentially separate phenomena that can perhaps have a few, likely simple relationships, which is simply not how the Earth-system or social systems work.
Thus, you think that if you’ve written a few paragraphs on each thing you deem relevant (chosen informally, liberally sprinkled with assertions, assumptions, and self-citations), you’ve covered everything.
Which impacts do you think I have missed? Can you explain why the perspective you take would render any of my substantive conclusions false?
I’m not sure what you’re talking about with self-citation. When do I cite myself?
Another way to look at it is to think about the impacts including in climate-economy models. Takakura et al (2019), which is one of the more comprehensive, includes:
Fluvial flooding
Coastal inundation
Agriculture
Undernourishment
Heat-related excess mortality
Cooling/heating demand
Occupational-health costs
Hydroelectric generation capacity
Thermal power generation capacity
I discuss all of those except cooling/heating demand and hydro/thermal generation capacity, as they seem like small factors relative to climate risk. In addition to that, I discuss tipping points, runaway greenhouse effects, crime, civil and interstate conflict, ecosystem collapse.
Sorry for jumping into this discussion which I haven’t actually read (I just saw this particular comment through the forum’s front page), but one thing that’s absent and I’d be interested in is desertification. I didn’t find any mention of it in the report.
Oh sorry, I thought you meant ‘did they leave negative comments about these things’. Lots of people looked at the overall report and were free to point out things I missed.
I still don’t really understand why you have such an issue with the methodology. I took my methodology to be—pick out all of the things in the climate literature that are relevant to the longtermist import of climate change, review the scientific literature on those things, and then arrive at my own view, send it to reviewers, make some revisions, iterate.
John, with all possible respect, that is not a theoretical framework.
I think one of your major errors in this piece (as betrayed by your methodology-as-categorisation comment above), is that you have an implicit ontology of factors as essentially separate phenomena that can perhaps have a few, likely simple relationships, which is simply not how the Earth-system or social systems work.
Thus, you think that if you’ve written a few paragraphs on each thing you deem relevant (chosen informally, liberally sprinkled with assertions, assumptions, and self-citations), you’ve covered everything.
It’s all very Cartesian.
Which impacts do you think I have missed? Can you explain why the perspective you take would render any of my substantive conclusions false?
I’m not sure what you’re talking about with self-citation. When do I cite myself?
Another way to look at it is to think about the impacts including in climate-economy models. Takakura et al (2019), which is one of the more comprehensive, includes:
Fluvial flooding
Coastal inundation
Agriculture
Undernourishment
Heat-related excess mortality
Cooling/heating demand
Occupational-health costs
Hydroelectric generation capacity
Thermal power generation capacity
I discuss all of those except cooling/heating demand and hydro/thermal generation capacity, as they seem like small factors relative to climate risk. In addition to that, I discuss tipping points, runaway greenhouse effects, crime, civil and interstate conflict, ecosystem collapse.
Sorry for jumping into this discussion which I haven’t actually read (I just saw this particular comment through the forum’s front page), but one thing that’s absent and I’d be interested in is desertification. I didn’t find any mention of it in the report.