It also concerns me that I’ve seen 5 instances of this post being disagree voted and strong downvoted, then a CE staff member commenting right after. I think those are obviously things people have a right to do if it is CE staff downvoting and disagreeing, but it means this post, outside of CE staff, might have fairly strong agreement from many people, which seems like an important note, given that it is still very positive karma, and without those votes might be positive agreement on balance.
For what it’s worth, I have no affiliation with CE, yet I disagree with some of the empirical claims you make — I’ve never gotten the sense that CE has a bad reputation among animal advocacy researchers, nor is it clear to me that the charities you mentioned were bad ideas prior to launching.
Then again, I might just not be in the know. But that’s why I really wish this post was pointing at specific reasoning for these claims rather than just saying it’s what other people think. If it’s true that other people think it, I’d love to know why they think it! If there are factual errors in CE’s research, it seems really important to flag them publicly. You even mention that the status quo for giving in the animal space (CE excepted) is “very bad already,” which is huge if true given the amount of money at stake, and definitely worth sharing examples of what exactly has gone wrong.
It also concerns me that I’ve seen 5 instances of this post being disagree voted and strong downvoted, then a CE staff member commenting right after. I think those are obviously things people have a right to do if it is CE staff downvoting and disagreeing, but it means this post, outside of CE staff, might have fairly strong agreement from many people, which seems like an important note, given that it is still very positive karma, and without those votes might be positive agreement on balance.
For what it’s worth, I have no affiliation with CE, yet I disagree with some of the empirical claims you make — I’ve never gotten the sense that CE has a bad reputation among animal advocacy researchers, nor is it clear to me that the charities you mentioned were bad ideas prior to launching.
Then again, I might just not be in the know. But that’s why I really wish this post was pointing at specific reasoning for these claims rather than just saying it’s what other people think. If it’s true that other people think it, I’d love to know why they think it! If there are factual errors in CE’s research, it seems really important to flag them publicly. You even mention that the status quo for giving in the animal space (CE excepted) is “very bad already,” which is huge if true given the amount of money at stake, and definitely worth sharing examples of what exactly has gone wrong.