@Federico Speziali and I both originally looked into support for this cohort of folks, but I ultimately got more pessimistic on it for two reasons:
There were fewer people doing E2G than I thought.
Those who were doing E2G were giving less than I thought.
I came to the view that those E2Gers giving significant amounts (100K+ let’s say) were an order of magnitude lower than I’d hoped (maybe 50 instead of 500) and also that they were already known to the community for the most part and already pretty much maximizing their impact.
There could be room for an org that tries to bring more folks like this into the fold, but I am a bit pessimistic that it would be successful, as many EAs purport to do E2G and give smallish sums, and if card-carrying EAs who are saying they do E2G aren’t doing that much on average, I don’t think those unfamiliar with EA would likely convert to high-giving E2Gers. They might learn about EA and then E2G and then take it up, and we already have a pipeline for that.
I should say I wouldn’t want to dissuade others from working on this as despite what I said I think this is underexplored on the margin and could bear fruit with some cheap experiments, but I think it is important to relay my true take here as well, even if it is a bit negative.
Should also note that GWWC is looking into this a bit so they might have a take they want to add.
I think the target audience should be high earners who are already donating >=10% of their income. (Getting people from 0% to 10% would not be in the scope of the charity. I think GWWC is already doing a great job)
The two main goals:
Motivate people to increase their donations (from 10% to 20% is probably much easier than from 0% to 10%)
Help people significantly increase their earnings through networking, coaching, financial advice, tax optimization, etc.
One of the most valuable things for the charity to do would be to help with networking
This could be a very small charity (1 or 2 people)
GWWC is looking into this a bit
Nice! Makes a lot of sense!
Personal anecdote:
I was donating 10% until I met a highly ambitious EA who made me realize I could be doing much more.
I’m looking for a job right now. I’m sure there are multiple software engineer EAs who would be happy to help me (eg. with interview advice), but there’s no easy way to connect.
I would like to help early-career SWEs, but only if they are ambitious about EA and aim to donate >10% of their income. There’s no easy way for me to find them.
@Federico Speziali and I both originally looked into support for this cohort of folks, but I ultimately got more pessimistic on it for two reasons:
There were fewer people doing E2G than I thought.
Those who were doing E2G were giving less than I thought.
I came to the view that those E2Gers giving significant amounts (100K+ let’s say) were an order of magnitude lower than I’d hoped (maybe 50 instead of 500) and also that they were already known to the community for the most part and already pretty much maximizing their impact.
There could be room for an org that tries to bring more folks like this into the fold, but I am a bit pessimistic that it would be successful, as many EAs purport to do E2G and give smallish sums, and if card-carrying EAs who are saying they do E2G aren’t doing that much on average, I don’t think those unfamiliar with EA would likely convert to high-giving E2Gers. They might learn about EA and then E2G and then take it up, and we already have a pipeline for that.
I should say I wouldn’t want to dissuade others from working on this as despite what I said I think this is underexplored on the margin and could bear fruit with some cheap experiments, but I think it is important to relay my true take here as well, even if it is a bit negative.
Should also note that GWWC is looking into this a bit so they might have a take they want to add.
Thank you so much for the context 💛
My raw thoughts (apologies for the low quality):
I think the target audience should be high earners who are already donating >=10% of their income. (Getting people from 0% to 10% would not be in the scope of the charity. I think GWWC is already doing a great job)
The two main goals:
Motivate people to increase their donations (from 10% to 20% is probably much easier than from 0% to 10%)
Help people significantly increase their earnings through networking, coaching, financial advice, tax optimization, etc.
One of the most valuable things for the charity to do would be to help with networking
This could be a very small charity (1 or 2 people)
Nice! Makes a lot of sense!
Personal anecdote:
I was donating 10% until I met a highly ambitious EA who made me realize I could be doing much more.
I’m looking for a job right now. I’m sure there are multiple software engineer EAs who would be happy to help me (eg. with interview advice), but there’s no easy way to connect.
I would like to help early-career SWEs, but only if they are ambitious about EA and aim to donate >10% of their income. There’s no easy way for me to find them.