(I’m not taking a position here on whether I think Abundance 2025 should have invited speakers it explicitly disagrees with, or whether my impression is that Abundance 2025 endorses or disendorses his views—just correcting you on that specific point)
Yes, I believed you when you said he was invited to a conference related to abundance. I was just saying he doesn’t represent abundance liberalism.
First, he’s a conservative, so he isn’t even a liberal in the first place. Second, you very helpfully linked to that book review where he says Klein and Thompson’s Abundance book is “fundamentally misguided” and that “a ‘politics of abundance’ is an oxymoron”.
This confirms what I said above that this guy is just “trolling the libs” by intentionally misusing the word “abundance”. This should not be a relevant consideration for whether Open Philanthropy Coefficient Giving wants to support policy reform related to abundance liberalism. But I think your point is just about sponsoring the conference.
If you have political conferences or policy conferences where you invite conservatives and Republicans, it’s going to be pretty much impossible to avoid inviting people who have offensive or problematic views, since that is core to the Republican Party and mainstream American conservatism right now. I don’t see how associating with Republicans or conservatives in some way is avoidable if a philanthropic organization like Open Philanthropy Coefficient Giving wants to be involved in politics or policy. Everyone in politics/policy has to in some way, including Democratic lawmakers.
And it doesn’t seem like there’s any good alternative.
The ‘deportation abundance’ guy, Charles Lehman, was not merely associating abundance with deportations in a stray tweet—he was a speaker on a panel at Abundance 2025. He himself claims to be not associated with the abundance coalition.
(I’m not taking a position here on whether I think Abundance 2025 should have invited speakers it explicitly disagrees with, or whether my impression is that Abundance 2025 endorses or disendorses his views—just correcting you on that specific point)
Yes, I believed you when you said he was invited to a conference related to abundance. I was just saying he doesn’t represent abundance liberalism.
First, he’s a conservative, so he isn’t even a liberal in the first place. Second, you very helpfully linked to that book review where he says Klein and Thompson’s Abundance book is “fundamentally misguided” and that “a ‘politics of abundance’ is an oxymoron”.
This confirms what I said above that this guy is just “trolling the libs” by intentionally misusing the word “abundance”. This should not be a relevant consideration for whether
Open PhilanthropyCoefficient Giving wants to support policy reform related to abundance liberalism. But I think your point is just about sponsoring the conference.If you have political conferences or policy conferences where you invite conservatives and Republicans, it’s going to be pretty much impossible to avoid inviting people who have offensive or problematic views, since that is core to the Republican Party and mainstream American conservatism right now. I don’t see how associating with Republicans or conservatives in some way is avoidable if a philanthropic organization like
Open PhilanthropyCoefficient Giving wants to be involved in politics or policy. Everyone in politics/policy has to in some way, including Democratic lawmakers.And it doesn’t seem like there’s any good alternative.