Hi Fay, Thank you for engaging with the post. We appreciate you taking the time to check the claims we make.
1) Redwood Funding
Regarding OP’s investment in OpenAI—you are correct that OpenAI received a larger amount of money. We didn’t include this because in since the grant in 2017, OpenAI transitioned to a capped for-profit. I (the author of this particular comment) was actually not aware that OpenAI had been at one point a research non-profit at one point. I wil be updating the original post to add this information in—we appreciate you flagging it.
In general, we disagree that the correct reference class for evaluating Redwood’s funding is for-profit alignment labs like OpenAI, Anthropic or DeepMind because they have significantly more funding from (primarily non-EA) investors, and have different core objectives and goals. We think the correct reference class for Redwood is other TAIS labs (academic and research nonprofit) such as CHAI, CAIS, FAR AI and so on. I will add some clarification to the original post with more context.
(We will discuss the point on OP having board seats at Redwood in a separate comment)
Hi Fay, Thank you for engaging with the post. We appreciate you taking the time to check the claims we make.
Regarding OP’s investment in OpenAI—you are correct that OpenAI received a larger amount of money. We didn’t include this because in since the grant in 2017, OpenAI transitioned to a capped for-profit. I (the author of this particular comment) was actually not aware that OpenAI had been at one point a research non-profit at one point. I wil be updating the original post to add this information in—we appreciate you flagging it.
In general, we disagree that the correct reference class for evaluating Redwood’s funding is for-profit alignment labs like OpenAI, Anthropic or DeepMind because they have significantly more funding from (primarily non-EA) investors, and have different core objectives and goals. We think the correct reference class for Redwood is other TAIS labs (academic and research nonprofit) such as CHAI, CAIS, FAR AI and so on. I will add some clarification to the original post with more context.
(We will discuss the point on OP having board seats at Redwood in a separate comment)
Update: This has now been edited in the original post.