FWIW, Open Phil is also largely responsible for non-movement building EA funding, but the rest of your comment still seems to stand replacing “movement-building” with “EA organizations/work”.
I think nuance is important here. Who should take what kind of responsibility? There should be responsibility to take at multiple levels (within an organization, the board, etc.), but Open Phil has the opportunity to deny funding and pressure organizations and individuals in different directions. Other than funding and Open Phil, there are internal decisions/processes, legal processes, shaming and disinvitations from EA events, maybe others. Even if those fail, don’t happen or don’t apply, we can still put pressure on their funding. If Open Phil is a major source of their funding, this will largely fall on Open Phil.
And Open Phil has a responsibility to do at least some due diligence, too.
Yes, sorry, nuance is important, I haven’t done the hard work of figuring out the details, and if you want to make EA better then it’s important to be aware of the key levers currently at play.
I’m just trying to push back on what I see as an unhealthy trend in EA away from the mindset of “How can we do better for the world?” towards “How can you do better for the world?” or even “How can you do better for me?” (Although I need to keep remembering that this phenomenon seems much more pronounced on this forum than IRL!)
FWIW, Open Phil is also largely responsible for non-movement building EA funding, but the rest of your comment still seems to stand replacing “movement-building” with “EA organizations/work”.
I think nuance is important here. Who should take what kind of responsibility? There should be responsibility to take at multiple levels (within an organization, the board, etc.), but Open Phil has the opportunity to deny funding and pressure organizations and individuals in different directions. Other than funding and Open Phil, there are internal decisions/processes, legal processes, shaming and disinvitations from EA events, maybe others. Even if those fail, don’t happen or don’t apply, we can still put pressure on their funding. If Open Phil is a major source of their funding, this will largely fall on Open Phil.
And Open Phil has a responsibility to do at least some due diligence, too.
Yes, sorry, nuance is important, I haven’t done the hard work of figuring out the details, and if you want to make EA better then it’s important to be aware of the key levers currently at play.
I’m just trying to push back on what I see as an unhealthy trend in EA away from the mindset of “How can we do better for the world?” towards “How can you do better for the world?” or even “How can you do better for me?” (Although I need to keep remembering that this phenomenon seems much more pronounced on this forum than IRL!)