I think using EA examples in the double crux game may be a bad idea because it will inadvertently lead EAs to come away with a more simplistic impression of these issues than they should.
I mostly teach Double Crux and related at CFAR workshops (the mainline, and speciality / alumni workshops). I’ve taught it at EAG 4 times (twice in 2017), and I can only observe a few participants in a session. So my n is small, and I’m very unsure.
But it seems to me that using EA examples mostly has the effect of fleshing out understanding of other EA’s views, more than flattening and simplifying. People are sometimes surprised by their partner’s cruxes are, at least (which suggests places where a straw model is getting updated).
But, participants could also be coming away with too much of an either-or perspective on these questions.
Yeah, reading your comments has assuaged my concerns since based on your observations the sign of the consequences of double-cruxing on EA example questions seems more unclear than clearly negative, and likely slightly positive. In general it seems like a neat exercise that is interesting but just doesn’t provide enough time to leave EAs with any impression of these issues much stronger than the one they came in with. I am still thinking of making a Google Form with my version of the questions, and then posing them to EAs, to see what kind of responses are generated as an (uncontrolled) experiment. I’ll let you know if I do so.
I mostly teach Double Crux and related at CFAR workshops (the mainline, and speciality / alumni workshops). I’ve taught it at EAG 4 times (twice in 2017), and I can only observe a few participants in a session. So my n is small, and I’m very unsure.
But it seems to me that using EA examples mostly has the effect of fleshing out understanding of other EA’s views, more than flattening and simplifying. People are sometimes surprised by their partner’s cruxes are, at least (which suggests places where a straw model is getting updated).
But, participants could also be coming away with too much of an either-or perspective on these questions.
Yeah, reading your comments has assuaged my concerns since based on your observations the sign of the consequences of double-cruxing on EA example questions seems more unclear than clearly negative, and likely slightly positive. In general it seems like a neat exercise that is interesting but just doesn’t provide enough time to leave EAs with any impression of these issues much stronger than the one they came in with. I am still thinking of making a Google Form with my version of the questions, and then posing them to EAs, to see what kind of responses are generated as an (uncontrolled) experiment. I’ll let you know if I do so.