It is unusual for a community as small as rationalism to have produced multiple instances of cult-like groups. And while this particular group is technically opposed to mainstream rationalism, they are still knee deep in rationalist epistemology (justifying extreme acts with “timeless decision theory” and so on). Something about the epistemics or community of rationalism is probably making these types of incidences more likely.
As long as EA is associated with rationalism, expect to continue getting second order splashback from these kind of incidences.
I don’t think rationalism is that small a subculture in the Bay at this point, and the Bay Area rate of cult creation has historically been pretty high since the 1960s at least. Watching Slimepriestess’ interview (linked in the LW thread comments), my impression is that the Zizians’ beliefs and actions stemmed from a fusion of rationalist/EA beliefs, far-left anarchist politics, and general Bay Area looniness.
It is unusual for a community as small as rationalism to have produced multiple instances of cult-like groups. And while this particular group is technically opposed to mainstream rationalism, they are still knee deep in rationalist epistemology (justifying extreme acts with “timeless decision theory” and so on). Something about the epistemics or community of rationalism is probably making these types of incidences more likely.
As long as EA is associated with rationalism, expect to continue getting second order splashback from these kind of incidences.
I don’t think rationalism is that small a subculture in the Bay at this point, and the Bay Area rate of cult creation has historically been pretty high since the 1960s at least. Watching Slimepriestess’ interview (linked in the LW thread comments), my impression is that the Zizians’ beliefs and actions stemmed from a fusion of rationalist/EA beliefs, far-left anarchist politics, and general Bay Area looniness.