Great to hear about your enthusiasm for fellowships!
Q1 data—we count fellowships based on when they start
We collect data on this at the end of each fellowship, so the non-EAVP participant numbers in the report are guesses based on Marie’s conversations with group leaders. For groups Huw was not in touch with on a regular basis, Marie assumed an average of around 12 participants/group, so it’s possible that the number is higher based on EA Philippines numbers (although a number of fellowships are smaller than 12 participants).
Marie is planning to make a spreadsheet like this from next quarter and will post it on the EA Groups Slack.
We’re collecting data on both starting and finishing numbers of participants at the end of each fellowship.
Marie is planning to include future fellowships in the spreadsheet. Adding a tab for other reading groups seems like a good idea.
Feel free to reach out to Marie directly on the EA Groups slack if you’d like to discuss more
On #1 and 2: Got it! I guess CEA should be more cautious (i.e. by putting significant caveats or not reporting the data yet) then about reporting participant data for non-EA Virtual Programs participants, since you collect data at the end of fellowships, and the data are just guesses before then.
On #1 and #2: In our report in footnote 5 where we reported this data we said: “As some students leave fellowships before finishing, and fellowships are run independently through groups, our estimates of the number of fellowships in Q4 and participants across Q1 / Q4 are somewhat uncertain.”
I do think the benefits of reporting estimates are more valuable than only reporting precise information, but we do try to add additional detail about where the uncertainty comes from. I’ll keep this comment in mind when we do our Q2 report as well.
Yeah estimates are probably better than nothing. Maybe making the caveat/uncertainties about the data more easily seen, i.e. as asterisks beside some numbers on the fellowship data table, rather than as a footnote might help. But yeah it’s a minor thing!
Hi Brian,
Great to hear about your enthusiasm for fellowships!
Q1 data—we count fellowships based on when they start
We collect data on this at the end of each fellowship, so the non-EAVP participant numbers in the report are guesses based on Marie’s conversations with group leaders. For groups Huw was not in touch with on a regular basis, Marie assumed an average of around 12 participants/group, so it’s possible that the number is higher based on EA Philippines numbers (although a number of fellowships are smaller than 12 participants).
Marie is planning to make a spreadsheet like this from next quarter and will post it on the EA Groups Slack.
We’re collecting data on both starting and finishing numbers of participants at the end of each fellowship.
Marie is planning to include future fellowships in the spreadsheet. Adding a tab for other reading groups seems like a good idea.
Feel free to reach out to Marie directly on the EA Groups slack if you’d like to discuss more
On #1 and 2: Got it! I guess CEA should be more cautious (i.e. by putting significant caveats or not reporting the data yet) then about reporting participant data for non-EA Virtual Programs participants, since you collect data at the end of fellowships, and the data are just guesses before then.
On #3-5: Great!
On #1 and #2: In our report in footnote 5 where we reported this data we said: “As some students leave fellowships before finishing, and fellowships are run independently through groups, our estimates of the number of fellowships in Q4 and participants across Q1 / Q4 are somewhat uncertain.”
I do think the benefits of reporting estimates are more valuable than only reporting precise information, but we do try to add additional detail about where the uncertainty comes from. I’ll keep this comment in mind when we do our Q2 report as well.
Yeah estimates are probably better than nothing. Maybe making the caveat/uncertainties about the data more easily seen, i.e. as asterisks beside some numbers on the fellowship data table, rather than as a footnote might help. But yeah it’s a minor thing!