Iâve been talking to Nonlinear and Lightcone trying to understand how much time LC gave NL for âadversarialâ fact checking on the final claims. Hereâs what Iâve ended up with for the timeline; dates are ET since thatâs where I am:
September 2nd (~5d before), LC reached out to NL to set up a meeting. (source)
September 4th (~3d before), LC shares a high level summary of the claims, an overview of which is public.
Later on September 4th (~2.5d before), the call happens. NL asks for a week to pull together evidence counter to claims in the draft. (source)
September 5th (~2d before), LC says they intend to write a draft that week, and will send it to NL for feedback before publishing. Their wording is ambiguous on whether thatâs the timeline for publishing or drafting (âI intend to write a public update this weekâ).
Later on September 5th (~1.5d before), NL repeats their request for more time.
September 6th (21hr before), LC shares a draft of their post with NL. This includes additional accusations. (source) Note that NL and LC disagree on how much this added: NL claims this introduced many new accusations (source), while LC claims theyâd already shared all the important ones (source). LC also shares a draft with Spencer Greenberg, who points out some errors and LC corrects. (source, source)
Later on September 6th (12hr before), NL repeats their request to wait, asking for 9d this time (âend of next weekâ), and includes that the draft includes âlibelousâ claims.
Later on September 6th (~2.5hr before), Spencer sends screenshots that arguably conflict with the postâs assertion that when Alice was sick ânobody in the house was willing to go out and get her vegan food, so she barely ate for 2 daysâ. (source, source)
September 7th (30min before), NL writes to LC requesting a week to give evidence that falsifies statements in the post, and saying that if they are not given this time theyâll sue for libel. (source)
Slightly later on September 7th, LC publishes the post.
(The specific times come from screenshots NL shared with me)
Iâve been talking to Nonlinear and Lightcone trying to understand how much time LC gave NL for âadversarialâ fact checking on the final claims. Hereâs what Iâve ended up with for the timeline; dates are ET since thatâs where I am:
September 2nd (~5d before), LC reached out to NL to set up a meeting. (source)
September 4th (~3d before), LC shares a high level summary of the claims, an overview of which is public.
Later on September 4th (~2.5d before), the call happens. NL asks for a week to pull together evidence counter to claims in the draft. (source)
September 5th (~2d before), LC says they intend to write a draft that week, and will send it to NL for feedback before publishing. Their wording is ambiguous on whether thatâs the timeline for publishing or drafting (âI intend to write a public update this weekâ).
Later on September 5th (~1.5d before), NL repeats their request for more time.
September 6th (21hr before), LC shares a draft of their post with NL. This includes additional accusations. (source) Note that NL and LC disagree on how much this added: NL claims this introduced many new accusations (source), while LC claims theyâd already shared all the important ones (source). LC also shares a draft with Spencer Greenberg, who points out some errors and LC corrects. (source, source)
Later on September 6th (12hr before), NL repeats their request to wait, asking for 9d this time (âend of next weekâ), and includes that the draft includes âlibelousâ claims.
Later on September 6th (~2.5hr before), Spencer sends screenshots that arguably conflict with the postâs assertion that when Alice was sick ânobody in the house was willing to go out and get her vegan food, so she barely ate for 2 daysâ. (source, source)
September 7th (30min before), NL writes to LC requesting a week to give evidence that falsifies statements in the post, and saying that if they are not given this time theyâll sue for libel. (source)
Slightly later on September 7th, LC publishes the post.
(The specific times come from screenshots NL shared with me)