Some* of the other posts you link to also ask things of their readers, but they also present a case for why that ask is a particularly exceptional use of resources.
As far as I can tell, OP isn’t making an ask of its readers – to me it reads as “FYI here’s a new thing you might be interested in!”
Can you point me to the parts where it seems like it’s making an ask?
[Disclosure: I’m helping out Atman Retreat as an advisor; views are my own]
I figured the OP was suggesting that people go to the retreat? (or maybe be generically supportive of the broader project of running retreats)
Not sure where this is going; doesn’t immediately seem like it counters what I said about your comparison to specific fundraising + analysis posts, or about why readers might be confused as to why this is here.
You drew a distinction between the comparison posts I linked to & the OP. I was confused by the distinction you were drawing. I asked for clarification.
I figured the OP was suggesting that people go to the retreat?
Can you point me to the place(s) where the OP is suggesting people go on these retreats?
Perhaps this is the part you have in mind:
We’re launching our first retreats in June, and we think this is a great opportunity to try psychedelics in a safe, legal setting, along with other people who are excited about EA.
Or maybe this is more a subtextual thing you’re picking up on?
I definitely read the post as suggesting implicitly that EAs should consider going on the retreat. What would be the point of the post otherwise? There is some discussion of psychedelics in general, but that doesn’t seem to be the primary purpose.
It’s tricky to think about from my perspective – two true things seem in tension:
(1) New business is being started, and the founder definitely wants people to use their product.
(2) New business is being started because the founder thinks starting it is an impactful thing to do.
So it feels like there’s a balance to strike between (1) & (2) in the communications around the retreat.
Following (1), we’d want more folks to attend the retreat. Following (2), we’re indifferent to whether folks attend the retreat, and really just want to get people’s thoughts on the retreat as new EA project.
Does the tension I’m pointing to make sense?
[Disclosure: I’m helping out Atman Retreat as an advisor; views are my own]
As far as I can tell, OP isn’t making an ask of its readers – to me it reads as “FYI here’s a new thing you might be interested in!”
Can you point me to the parts where it seems like it’s making an ask?
[Disclosure: I’m helping out Atman Retreat as an advisor; views are my own]
I figured the OP was suggesting that people go to the retreat? (or maybe be generically supportive of the broader project of running retreats)
Not sure where this is going; doesn’t immediately seem like it counters what I said about your comparison to specific fundraising + analysis posts, or about why readers might be confused as to why this is here.
I’m not sure where it’s going either :-)
You drew a distinction between the comparison posts I linked to & the OP. I was confused by the distinction you were drawing. I asked for clarification.
Can you point me to the place(s) where the OP is suggesting people go on these retreats?
Perhaps this is the part you have in mind:
Or maybe this is more a subtextual thing you’re picking up on?
I definitely read the post as suggesting implicitly that EAs should consider going on the retreat. What would be the point of the post otherwise? There is some discussion of psychedelics in general, but that doesn’t seem to be the primary purpose.
Thanks, this is helpful.
It’s tricky to think about from my perspective – two true things seem in tension:
(1) New business is being started, and the founder definitely wants people to use their product.
(2) New business is being started because the founder thinks starting it is an impactful thing to do.
So it feels like there’s a balance to strike between (1) & (2) in the communications around the retreat.
Following (1), we’d want more folks to attend the retreat. Following (2), we’re indifferent to whether folks attend the retreat, and really just want to get people’s thoughts on the retreat as new EA project.
Does the tension I’m pointing to make sense?
[Disclosure: I’m helping out Atman Retreat as an advisor; views are my own]