Thanks for writing this! I think thereâs a lot of knee-jerk anti-poly sentiment in the comments and humanizing polyamory is valuable. I agree with you that most of the problems people are ascribing to polyamory are actually not specific to polyamory at all.
Before I continue, I want to be clear that I think your relationships are positive and Iâm glad you have them. And I also think this about poly people in general.
But outside those steps, what would it mean to âhandleâ my polyamorous relationships? What would âresolving polyamoryâ look likeâ? Are we talking about statements from formal organizations about which relationship styles are permissible? Informal social sanction aimed not at misconduct but at anyone in a nontraditional relationship? Why is that something that the âcommunityâ should do?
Imagine that we had strong evidence that powerful people having multiple simultaneous relationships is more likely to lead to interpersonal harm. The harm would only happen through actions that would still be bad in themselves (coercive propositioning etc), but their being poly could magnify that harm by offering more opportunities and making them generally bolder. Personally, I think this is more likely than not, but also not a large enough effect to outweigh the benefit of they and their partners getting to enjoy their preferred relationship style. And also that the evidence that pushes me in the direction of thinking that it makes interpersonal harm more likely is very weak and speculative. So I donât think something âshould be doneâ.
But if the evidence were there, the harm was large enough, and I thought this was a serious issue for the EA community, I might try to discourage polyamory. This could look like writing up the evidence, talking privately to high-status poly people that I thought might be on the fence, and encouraging people to talk about their decision to go mono.
That seems basically reasonable to me, though it feels operative that you would be acting in your independent capacity as a person with opinions who tries to convince other people that your opinions are correct. Iâd be much more uncomfortable with an EA institution that had a âtalking people out of polyamorous relationshipsâ department.
I think there are some forms of social pressure which are fine for individuals to apply but which are damaging and coercive if they have formal institutional weight behind them, so calls for âpeople who agree with me polyamorous relationships are damagingâ to advocate for that stance donât make me uneasy the way calls for âthe communityâ to âhandleâ those things make me uneasy.
Yes, Iâm not sure this needs to be said but just to be clearâI also donât think CEA or whatever should have a âtalking people out of polyamorous relationshipsâ department, and this would seem like a bizarre overreach to me.
Iâm thinking of things much more along the lines of âdiscourage the idea of polyamory as âmore rationalâ and especially polyamory pressure in particularâ, not âmake EA institutions formally try to deconvert people from polyamoryâ or whatever.
Thanks for writing this! I think thereâs a lot of knee-jerk anti-poly sentiment in the comments and humanizing polyamory is valuable. I agree with you that most of the problems people are ascribing to polyamory are actually not specific to polyamory at all.
Before I continue, I want to be clear that I think your relationships are positive and Iâm glad you have them. And I also think this about poly people in general.
Imagine that we had strong evidence that powerful people having multiple simultaneous relationships is more likely to lead to interpersonal harm. The harm would only happen through actions that would still be bad in themselves (coercive propositioning etc), but their being poly could magnify that harm by offering more opportunities and making them generally bolder. Personally, I think this is more likely than not, but also not a large enough effect to outweigh the benefit of they and their partners getting to enjoy their preferred relationship style. And also that the evidence that pushes me in the direction of thinking that it makes interpersonal harm more likely is very weak and speculative. So I donât think something âshould be doneâ.
But if the evidence were there, the harm was large enough, and I thought this was a serious issue for the EA community, I might try to discourage polyamory. This could look like writing up the evidence, talking privately to high-status poly people that I thought might be on the fence, and encouraging people to talk about their decision to go mono.
That seems basically reasonable to me, though it feels operative that you would be acting in your independent capacity as a person with opinions who tries to convince other people that your opinions are correct. Iâd be much more uncomfortable with an EA institution that had a âtalking people out of polyamorous relationshipsâ department.
I think there are some forms of social pressure which are fine for individuals to apply but which are damaging and coercive if they have formal institutional weight behind them, so calls for âpeople who agree with me polyamorous relationships are damagingâ to advocate for that stance donât make me uneasy the way calls for âthe communityâ to âhandleâ those things make me uneasy.
Yes, Iâm not sure this needs to be said but just to be clearâI also donât think CEA or whatever should have a âtalking people out of polyamorous relationshipsâ department, and this would seem like a bizarre overreach to me.
Iâm thinking of things much more along the lines of âdiscourage the idea of polyamory as âmore rationalâ and especially polyamory pressure in particularâ, not âmake EA institutions formally try to deconvert people from polyamoryâ or whatever.