I roll to disbelieve on these numbers. “Multiple reports a week” would be >100/year, which from my perspective doesn’t seem consistent with the combination of (1) the total number of reports I’m aware of being a lot smaller than that, and (2) the fact that I can match most of the cases in the Time article (including ones that had names removed) to reports I already knew about.
(It’s certainly possible that there was a particularly bad week or two, or that you’re getting filled in on some sort of backlog.)
I also don’t believe that a law school, or any group with 1300 members in it, would have zero incidents in 3-5 years. That isn’t consistent with what we know about the overall rate of sexual misconduct in the US population; it seems far more likely that incidents within those groups are going unreported, or are being reported somewhere you don’t see and being kept quiet.
My comment was insulting and accusatory, but I think it was important enough to clarify for everyone what the situation was and to make sure that interpretation was mistaken (like you just did, again thanks for promptly and accurately doing that)
”It’s disheartening that so many jumped to support and upvote your comment, when in so many other comments, I’ve spoken to what I’ve done to help your org—again, without charging. Also, one of the survivors vouched for me in the comments. Julia Wise also backed me up in that she confirmed that I have helped CEA in the past. I’ve also spoke to Chana, again, without charging. “
The numbers you saw are not the number of people upvoting the comments, you can hover the mouse on the numbers to see that it was only one person.
I am basically the center of a whisper network, and have a reputation amongst survivors for being “good” at this.
It seems possible to me that you became the center of the EA whisper network by chance even though you’re not in EA (perhaps because you’re not in EA), and that being the center of the EA whisper network is giving you a skewed impression of the per capita number of incidents.
The article mentioned “more than 6,000 attendees at EA global conferences in 2022”. That happens to be about the same number of people as the undergraduate student population at Harvard, Yale, or Princeton. For reference, this list of Title IX coordinators on Yale’s “sexual misconduct” subdomain has 20-30 names on it.
(I don’t mean to discount the experiences of survivors with my comment—Jeff does a good job explaining why comparisons with Harvard/Yale/Princeton could be relevant.)
I roll to disbelieve on these numbers. “Multiple reports a week” would be >100/year, which from my perspective doesn’t seem consistent with the combination of (1) the total number of reports I’m aware of being a lot smaller than that, and (2) the fact that I can match most of the cases in the Time article (including ones that had names removed) to reports I already knew about.
(It’s certainly possible that there was a particularly bad week or two, or that you’re getting filled in on some sort of backlog.)
I also don’t believe that a law school, or any group with 1300 members in it, would have zero incidents in 3-5 years. That isn’t consistent with what we know about the overall rate of sexual misconduct in the US population; it seems far more likely that incidents within those groups are going unreported, or are being reported somewhere you don’t see and being kept quiet.
Sorry if this sounds accusatory, I just want to ask for a clarification, but do you get paid for this work?
I ask because some of your comments read a bit like advertisements, especially the first one (which you deleted)
Thanks for promptly clarifying
My comment was insulting and accusatory, but I think it was important enough to clarify for everyone what the situation was and to make sure that interpretation was mistaken (like you just did, again thanks for promptly and accurately doing that)
”It’s disheartening that so many jumped to support and upvote your comment, when in so many other comments, I’ve spoken to what I’ve done to help your org—again, without charging. Also, one of the survivors vouched for me in the comments. Julia Wise also backed me up in that she confirmed that I have helped CEA in the past. I’ve also spoke to Chana, again, without charging. “
The numbers you saw are not the number of people upvoting the comments, you can hover the mouse on the numbers to see that it was only one person.
I’m truly sorry you were hurt by the accusation
Thanks for your work.
You stated elsewhere in this thread that
It seems possible to me that you became the center of the EA whisper network by chance even though you’re not in EA (perhaps because you’re not in EA), and that being the center of the EA whisper network is giving you a skewed impression of the per capita number of incidents.
The article mentioned “more than 6,000 attendees at EA global conferences in 2022”. That happens to be about the same number of people as the undergraduate student population at Harvard, Yale, or Princeton. For reference, this list of Title IX coordinators on Yale’s “sexual misconduct” subdomain has 20-30 names on it.
(I don’t mean to discount the experiences of survivors with my comment—Jeff does a good job explaining why comparisons with Harvard/Yale/Princeton could be relevant.)