it is worth some eyebrow-raising if it turns out that the ingroup defense is something along the lines of “well, by bioethicists, we mean research ethicists, and by research ethicists we mean research bureaucrats, and by research bureaucrats, we mean research bureaucracy.”
has been roughly my impression of the curious EA bioethics hate, which I have tried to push back on when I’ve seen my friends expressing it. I liked the Rob Bensinger piece Thirty-three randomly selected bioethics papers that you linked.
My sense is that there are institutions making dubious, hyperconservative, and omission-biased “ethical” judgments for reasons that are more to do with liability than ethics. I think many USA-based researchers don’t really interact with “bioethics” except when asked to fill out extremely onerous forms for their institution (e.g. “what are the risks of asking people to look at differently-coloured triangles on a computer screen?”, where an insufficiently-detailed response means your project can’t go ahead).
I agree, the Bensinger piece was very helpful, and wasn’t in my first draft. Credit to Applied Divinity Studies for linking me to something that linked to it, or I wouldn’t have found it at all.
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has been roughly my impression of the curious EA bioethics hate, which I have tried to push back on when I’ve seen my friends expressing it. I liked the Rob Bensinger piece Thirty-three randomly selected bioethics papers that you linked.
My sense is that there are institutions making dubious, hyperconservative, and omission-biased “ethical” judgments for reasons that are more to do with liability than ethics. I think many USA-based researchers don’t really interact with “bioethics” except when asked to fill out extremely onerous forms for their institution (e.g. “what are the risks of asking people to look at differently-coloured triangles on a computer screen?”, where an insufficiently-detailed response means your project can’t go ahead).
I agree, the Bensinger piece was very helpful, and wasn’t in my first draft. Credit to Applied Divinity Studies for linking me to something that linked to it, or I wouldn’t have found it at all.