I was also hesitant about CFAR … Good point regarding GPP …. Not sure about 80K
Its meta in Hurford’s sense, which is different from Todd’s—it’s indirect, and has a chain of causality to impact that has extra points of failure. That’s what many of Hurford’s arguments spoke to. GPP and 80K also count as meta by this definition.
Anyway, taking all this into consideration I get $3.2m meta, $62m non-meta for a ratio of 5%. (Plus $2.1 million in “grey area”)
Are you counting donations from people who aren’t EAs, or are only relatively loosely so? They can correct me if I’m wrong but Hurford didn’t seem concerned about those.
Regarding the survey, do you feel that it’s biased specifically towards those who prefer meta, or just those who identify as EA?
I don’t know about the Oxford line, but the general feeling where I am and among international EA’s I’ve talked to is that the survey tells us more about the people who are more engaged in the international community, identify more as EA’s and participate online, are more dedicated, etc. Most other sources confirm that these people _do_ particularly favour meta, that many came from the large old LessWrong community, that they’re heavily consequentialist, etc.
Naturally finding out about and establishing contact with as many other people as possible would also be valuable, including less engaged random GWWC and even GW donors. I don’t know about GWWC Central, but my local chapter plans to help get next survey to as many people as possible.
Its meta in Hurford’s sense, which is different from Todd’s—it’s indirect, and has a chain of causality to impact that has extra points of failure. That’s what many of Hurford’s arguments spoke to. GPP and 80K also count as meta by this definition.
Are you counting donations from people who aren’t EAs, or are only relatively loosely so? They can correct me if I’m wrong but Hurford didn’t seem concerned about those.
I don’t know about the Oxford line, but the general feeling where I am and among international EA’s I’ve talked to is that the survey tells us more about the people who are more engaged in the international community, identify more as EA’s and participate online, are more dedicated, etc. Most other sources confirm that these people _do_ particularly favour meta, that many came from the large old LessWrong community, that they’re heavily consequentialist, etc.
Naturally finding out about and establishing contact with as many other people as possible would also be valuable, including less engaged random GWWC and even GW donors. I don’t know about GWWC Central, but my local chapter plans to help get next survey to as many people as possible.
Yes. Looking at the survey data was an attempt to deal with this.