What is the evidence for manipulating voting scores? Feel free to say you can’t share, but if it can be publicly evidenced in some way, as it seems it might, that would be more informative.
I interpret the situation as an incident that Kat did not honor her word about content, Kirsten was upset, and Kat suppressed Kirsten’s concerns. As you can see, Charles He (who seems otherwise unintelligent) pointed this out clearly.
I grudge providing this, and I do so because of interest which I think is disproportionate, as this is not substantive compared to the rest of the claims. Frankly, I assumed this voting behavior was common knowledge.
As a moderator, I think the phrase “seems otherwise unintelligent” is clearly not generous or collaborative and breaks Forum norms. This is a warning, please don’t insult other users.
There’s probably a rationale I don’t understand here—but what’s the reason for allowing someone to strong upvote their own comment, irrespective of whether the thread was about a misaction? (though this makes it worse). Like do they get karma for doing this and are just doing this to boost their own karma? [Edit: deleted, as this does not appear to be the case, at least not when I tried it just now] Are we suggesting that people with higher karma both make better comments and can be trusted to judge themselves independently? Are we not worried this could bias other peoples’ judgements?
″...The researchers automatically and artificially gave certain comments on stories an immediate up vote—the first vote that a comment would receive. You might well think that after hundreds or thousands of visitors and ratings, a single initial vote on a comment could not possibly matter. That is a sensible thought, but it is wrong. After seeing an initial up vote, the next viewer became 32% more likely to give an up vote. Remarkably, this effect persisted over time. After five months, a single positive initial vote artificially increased the mean rating of comments by 25%.”
What is the evidence for manipulating voting scores? Feel free to say you can’t share, but if it can be publicly evidenced in some way, as it seems it might, that would be more informative.
Here is one instance of what I consider vote manipulation.
https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/cTQfWpobqk4nDWsfG/new-use-the-nonlinear-library-to-listen-to-the-top-ea-forum#comments
I interpret the situation as an incident that Kat did not honor her word about content, Kirsten was upset, and Kat suppressed Kirsten’s concerns. As you can see, Charles He (who seems otherwise unintelligent) pointed this out clearly.
I grudge providing this, and I do so because of interest which I think is disproportionate, as this is not substantive compared to the rest of the claims. Frankly, I assumed this voting behavior was common knowledge.
As a moderator, I think the phrase “seems otherwise unintelligent” is clearly not generous or collaborative and breaks Forum norms. This is a warning, please don’t insult other users.
There’s probably a rationale I don’t understand here—but what’s the reason for allowing someone to strong upvote their own comment, irrespective of whether the thread was about a misaction? (though this makes it worse).
Like do they get karma for doing this and are just doing this to boost their own karma? [Edit: deleted, as this does not appear to be the case, at least not when I tried it just now]Are we suggesting that people with higher karma both make better comments and can be trusted to judge themselves independently? Are we not worried this could bias other peoples’ judgements?
From Noise:
Source: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1240466
Would someone be happy to explain what forum norm I’ve broken with my above comment, or the reason for the strong downvote, given the voting norms?