Think of all the VIPs whom we’ve emailed, who have read our books, attended meetings with us, been to our events, or who are within our personal networks that aren’t donating their fortune, or in most instances even one cent.
In his talk at the 2015 Effective Altruism Global conference, Holden Karnofsky of Givewell and the Open Philanthropy Project (Open Phil) said he is optimistic in particular about the ability of Open Phil to attract and influence the donations of more very high net-worth individuals, especially the ones similar to Dustin Moskovitiz (co-founder of Good Ventures, and Facebook) in Silicon Valley succeeding in startups, who Mr. Karnofsky believes take more consideration of the effectiveness of their donations. One example he cited is how earlier this year Alex Trigger and Mike Kriger, a founder of Instagram, have agreed to make grants from their foundation based on the recommendations of Open Phil alongside Good Ventures.
Also, how much information do you really have about how much the highest net-worth individuals effective altruism is in touch with are considering recommendations from effective altruism? Even if they haven’t donated one cent, aren’t they more likely to make a decision to donate five, six, or seven figure sums, rather than just donating $10 to AMF and saying “okay, thanks, EA, I’ve learned!”
Think of all of the friends within our networks, and think about how often we fail to grab their attention.
Effective altruism is a social movement, and while much of it is centralized in formal organizations, more so than other social movements I’m aware of, that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a big grassroots component to it as well. Individuals telling their friends and others about effective altruism is a lot different than a marketing campaign, and I’m not sure we can expect the same methods to effect optimal conversion rates for both. It’s more difficult to measure what works through word of mouth. Also, I personally think it might be too demanding to request effective altruists run experiments or something in their personal lives to figure out what works best in spreading effective altruism.
Think of the ridiculous high level of conformity within the core of the movement, and our continued failure to attract those who would truly represent diversity.
Can you please specificy what you mean by the “core of the movement”, and on what dimension in this case a lack of diversity means, and how it’s most problematic?
In his talk at the 2015 Effective Altruism Global conference, Holden Karnofsky of Givewell and the Open Philanthropy Project (Open Phil) said he is optimistic in particular about the ability of Open Phil to attract and influence the donations of more very high net-worth individuals, especially the ones similar to Dustin Moskovitiz (co-founder of Good Ventures, and Facebook) in Silicon Valley succeeding in startups, who Mr. Karnofsky believes take more consideration of the effectiveness of their donations. One example he cited is how earlier this year Alex Trigger and Mike Kriger, a founder of Instagram, have agreed to make grants from their foundation based on the recommendations of Open Phil alongside Good Ventures.
Also, how much information do you really have about how much the highest net-worth individuals effective altruism is in touch with are considering recommendations from effective altruism? Even if they haven’t donated one cent, aren’t they more likely to make a decision to donate five, six, or seven figure sums, rather than just donating $10 to AMF and saying “okay, thanks, EA, I’ve learned!”
Effective altruism is a social movement, and while much of it is centralized in formal organizations, more so than other social movements I’m aware of, that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a big grassroots component to it as well. Individuals telling their friends and others about effective altruism is a lot different than a marketing campaign, and I’m not sure we can expect the same methods to effect optimal conversion rates for both. It’s more difficult to measure what works through word of mouth. Also, I personally think it might be too demanding to request effective altruists run experiments or something in their personal lives to figure out what works best in spreading effective altruism.
Can you please specificy what you mean by the “core of the movement”, and on what dimension in this case a lack of diversity means, and how it’s most problematic?