Claire, good point about EAs earning to give, and I agree! This is why in the post, regarding EAs in particular, I state:
“That gets to another point that Kerry and I discussed, namely the benefits of having some EAs who specialize in promoting ideas about effective giving, and more broadly integrating promotion of effective giving as something that EAs do in general. Some EAs can do the most good by working hard and devoting 10% of their money to charity. Some can do the most good by thinking hard about the big issues. Some can do the most good by growing the internal capacity and infrastructures of the movement, and getting worthy people on board. Others can do the most good by getting non-EAs to channel their money toward effective charities through effective marketing and persuasion tactics.”
Thus, the point of promoting effective giving is getting non-EA people who are already interested in giving to give to effective charities, not getting them to earn to give.
Thanks for catching that point of confusion, and we will work to make sure the messaging of “effective giving” does not imply “earning to give” as a necessary part of effective giving.
[x-posted from facebook] Seems somewhat misleading if we think only a small proportion of people should be earning to give, or focused on donating at all (e.g. https://80000hours.org/2015/07/80000-hours-thinks-that-only-a-small-proportion-of-people-should-earn-to-give-long-term/)
Claire, good point about EAs earning to give, and I agree! This is why in the post, regarding EAs in particular, I state:
“That gets to another point that Kerry and I discussed, namely the benefits of having some EAs who specialize in promoting ideas about effective giving, and more broadly integrating promotion of effective giving as something that EAs do in general. Some EAs can do the most good by working hard and devoting 10% of their money to charity. Some can do the most good by thinking hard about the big issues. Some can do the most good by growing the internal capacity and infrastructures of the movement, and getting worthy people on board. Others can do the most good by getting non-EAs to channel their money toward effective charities through effective marketing and persuasion tactics.”
Thus, the point of promoting effective giving is getting non-EA people who are already interested in giving to give to effective charities, not getting them to earn to give.
Thanks for catching that point of confusion, and we will work to make sure the messaging of “effective giving” does not imply “earning to give” as a necessary part of effective giving.
EDIT For those curious, the conversation continued on the Facebook group