I tend to agree at a first glance, but when you take into account this counternarrative that has cropped up of “this is just a list of losing AI developers trying to retake control” I wonder if this will trudge on proactively or become fuel to the “the people worried about AI safety are just selfish elitists” fire that Timnit Gebru is always stoking.
Mmm not so sure on this. I think there’s a much stronger “x, who I really don’t like, is involved in this so I won’t involve myself in it” motivation now a days. Twitter is a relevant example here, where Musk joining was enough for many to leave, even if people they still admire and were interested in engaging with were still on the platform. I like the paradigm of “everyone has someone to like so we can all like it” but think today we’ve moved more towards a “distancing from people you don’t like” in a way that makes me wonder if the former is still possible. What do you think about that though?
Cool, will maybe sign then!
Thanks for responding too! Appreciate engagement, it makes thinking about these sorts of things much more worth it.
Yudkowsky’s TIME article is a good counter to this. The blunt, no holds-barred, version of what all the fuss is about.
:)
Thanks for the link, and good that there is precedence.
How many big accounts that threatened to leave Twitter actually have? I’ve seen a lot just continue to threaten to but keep posting. As Elon says, at least it’s not boring. I hope that we’re at a high point of polarisation and things will get better. Maybe the Twitter algorithm being open sourced could be a first step to this (i.e. if social media becomes less polarised, due to anger being downweighted or something, as a result).
I tend to agree at a first glance, but when you take into account this counternarrative that has cropped up of “this is just a list of losing AI developers trying to retake control” I wonder if this will trudge on proactively or become fuel to the “the people worried about AI safety are just selfish elitists” fire that Timnit Gebru is always stoking.
I think I just flatly agree here.
Someone from lesswrong mentioned the Letter of three hundred which I’d like to check out in this context.
Mmm not so sure on this. I think there’s a much stronger “x, who I really don’t like, is involved in this so I won’t involve myself in it” motivation now a days. Twitter is a relevant example here, where Musk joining was enough for many to leave, even if people they still admire and were interested in engaging with were still on the platform. I like the paradigm of “everyone has someone to like so we can all like it” but think today we’ve moved more towards a “distancing from people you don’t like” in a way that makes me wonder if the former is still possible. What do you think about that though?
Cool, will maybe sign then!
Thanks for responding too! Appreciate engagement, it makes thinking about these sorts of things much more worth it.
Yudkowsky’s TIME article is a good counter to this. The blunt, no holds-barred, version of what all the fuss is about.
:)
Thanks for the link, and good that there is precedence.
How many big accounts that threatened to leave Twitter actually have? I’ve seen a lot just continue to threaten to but keep posting. As Elon says, at least it’s not boring. I hope that we’re at a high point of polarisation and things will get better. Maybe the Twitter algorithm being open sourced could be a first step to this (i.e. if social media becomes less polarised, due to anger being downweighted or something, as a result).
Great :)