I think there’s a bit of a misunderstanding—I’m not asking people to narrowly conform to some message. For example, if you want to disagree with Andrew’s estimate of the number of lives that Carrick has saved, go ahead. I’m saying exhibit a basic level of cultural and political sensitivity. One of the strengths of the effective altruism community is that it’s been able to incorporate people to whom that doesn’t always come naturally, but this seems like a moment when it’s required anyway.
Yeah, my reading of your comment was in some ways the opposite of Habryka’s original take, since I was reading it as primarily directed at people who might support Carrick in weird/antisocial ways, rather than people who might dissent from supporting him.
Yeah, I had a chat with Ryan via PM as well, and it does seem like I interpreted him as saying something more strong than he had intended to say. So for anyone else who might have had a similar feeling, hopefully this thread is a useful clarification.
I think there’s a bit of a misunderstanding—I’m not asking people to narrowly conform to some message. For example, if you want to disagree with Andrew’s estimate of the number of lives that Carrick has saved, go ahead. I’m saying exhibit a basic level of cultural and political sensitivity. One of the strengths of the effective altruism community is that it’s been able to incorporate people to whom that doesn’t always come naturally, but this seems like a moment when it’s required anyway.
Yeah, my reading of your comment was in some ways the opposite of Habryka’s original take, since I was reading it as primarily directed at people who might support Carrick in weird/antisocial ways, rather than people who might dissent from supporting him.
That’s...a lot of karma.
Yeah, I had a chat with Ryan via PM as well, and it does seem like I interpreted him as saying something more strong than he had intended to say. So for anyone else who might have had a similar feeling, hopefully this thread is a useful clarification.