The first group of people are not the people who took the latter group of actions.
I’m being picky here, but my point is that people are being very wooly about this idea of “EA Leadership”. The FTX Foundation team and the 80k team are different people, not arms of the amorphous “EA Leadership”. So maybe the FTX Foundation team shouldn’t have lauded SBF—but they didn’t, that was someone else.
This is again where being specific matters. “The FTX Foundation team should have done more due diligence before agreeing to work with SBF” is at least a reasonable, specific, criticism that relates to the specific responsibilities those people might have. “Why did EA Leadership not Do Something?” is not.
Yes, the (former) Future Fund team are specific people. Regarding the happenings in 2018 around Alameda, it’s hard to know who the specific people are because we haven’t heard much about who whew what. It seems reasonable to suppose that people at CEA (perhaps including the executives) knew about it (given SBF and Tara Mac Aulay both worked there prior to Alameda), but also possible that due to fear of reprisals or possible NDAs, no one in any position of responsibility knew about it.
“EA leadership” is a set of very specific people—those who control the money, and those who control the brand. That means the boards of OpenPhil and EV, and the Future Fund team when that was still a thing. If CEA and 80k have their own boards (I think they don’t?), then they too.
The first group of people are not the people who took the latter group of actions.
I’m being picky here, but my point is that people are being very wooly about this idea of “EA Leadership”. The FTX Foundation team and the 80k team are different people, not arms of the amorphous “EA Leadership”. So maybe the FTX Foundation team shouldn’t have lauded SBF—but they didn’t, that was someone else.
This is again where being specific matters. “The FTX Foundation team should have done more due diligence before agreeing to work with SBF” is at least a reasonable, specific, criticism that relates to the specific responsibilities those people might have. “Why did EA Leadership not Do Something?” is not.
Yes, the (former) Future Fund team are specific people. Regarding the happenings in 2018 around Alameda, it’s hard to know who the specific people are because we haven’t heard much about who whew what. It seems reasonable to suppose that people at CEA (perhaps including the executives) knew about it (given SBF and Tara Mac Aulay both worked there prior to Alameda), but also possible that due to fear of reprisals or possible NDAs, no one in any position of responsibility knew about it.
“EA leadership” is a set of very specific people—those who control the money, and those who control the brand. That means the boards of OpenPhil and EV, and the Future Fund team when that was still a thing. If CEA and 80k have their own boards (I think they don’t?), then they too.