Agree that these are different; I think they aren’t different enough to come anywhere close to meaning that longtermism can’t be action-guiding though!
Would love to hear more from you when you’ve had a chance to form more of an opinion :)
Edit: also, it seems like one could mostly refute this objection by just finding times when someone did something with the intention of affecting the future in 10-20 years (which many people give some weight to for AGI timelines), and the action had the intended effect? This seems trivial.
Agree that these are different; I think they aren’t different enough to come anywhere close to meaning that longtermism can’t be action-guiding though!
Would love to hear more from you when you’ve had a chance to form more of an opinion :)
Edit: also, it seems like one could mostly refute this objection by just finding times when someone did something with the intention of affecting the future in 10-20 years (which many people give some weight to for AGI timelines), and the action had the intended effect? This seems trivial.