Seems like that is just a bad argument, and can be solved with saying “well that’s obviously wrong for obvious, commonsense reasons” and if they really want to, they can make a spreadsheet, fill it in with the selection pressures they think they’re causing, and see for themselves that indeed its wrong.
The argument I’m making is that most of the examples you gave I thought “that’s a dumb argument”. And if people are consistently making transparently dumb selection arguments, this seems different from people making subtly dumb selection arguments, like economists.
If you have subtly dumb selection arguments, you should go out and test which are true, if you’re making transparently dumb ones, you should figure out how to formulate better hypotheses. Chances are you’re not yet even oriented in the vague direction of reality in the domain you’re attempting to reason in.
Seems like that is just a bad argument, and can be solved with saying “well that’s obviously wrong for obvious, commonsense reasons” and if they really want to, they can make a spreadsheet, fill it in with the selection pressures they think they’re causing, and see for themselves that indeed its wrong.
The argument I’m making is that most of the examples you gave I thought “that’s a dumb argument”. And if people are consistently making transparently dumb selection arguments, this seems different from people making subtly dumb selection arguments, like economists.
If you have subtly dumb selection arguments, you should go out and test which are true, if you’re making transparently dumb ones, you should figure out how to formulate better hypotheses. Chances are you’re not yet even oriented in the vague direction of reality in the domain you’re attempting to reason in.