I recommend a mediator be hired to work with Jacy and whichever stakeholders are relevant (speaking broadly). This will be more productive than a he-said she-said forum discussion that is very emotionally toxic for many bystanders.
It seems to me that “having a safe community” is something that’s relevant to the entire community.
I don’t think long, toxic argument threads are necessary as a decision seems to have been made 3 years ago. The only question is what’s changed. So I’m hoping we see some comment from CEA staff on the matter.
I imagine Jacy turning up to EA events is more toxic for the women that Jacy has harasssed and for the women he might harass in the future. There is no indication that he has learned his lesson. He is totally incapable of taking moral responsibility for anything.
This is not he-said she-said. I have only stated known facts so far and I am surprised to see people dispute them. The guy has been kicked out of university for sexual misconduct and banned from EA events for sexual misconduct. He should not be welcome in the community.
I’m confused that you seem to claim strong evidence on the basis on a variety of things that seem like weak evidence to me. While I am sure details should not be provided, can you clarify whether you have non-public information about what happened post 2016 that contradicts what Kelly and Jacy have said publicly about it?
I recommend a mediator be hired to work with Jacy and whichever stakeholders are relevant (speaking broadly). This will be more productive than a he-said she-said forum discussion that is very emotionally toxic for many bystanders.
Who do you think the relevant stakeholders are?
It seems to me that “having a safe community” is something that’s relevant to the entire community.
I don’t think long, toxic argument threads are necessary as a decision seems to have been made 3 years ago. The only question is what’s changed. So I’m hoping we see some comment from CEA staff on the matter.
I imagine Jacy turning up to EA events is more toxic for the women that Jacy has harasssed and for the women he might harass in the future. There is no indication that he has learned his lesson. He is totally incapable of taking moral responsibility for anything.
This is not he-said she-said. I have only stated known facts so far and I am surprised to see people dispute them. The guy has been kicked out of university for sexual misconduct and banned from EA events for sexual misconduct. He should not be welcome in the community.
I’m confused that you seem to claim strong evidence on the basis on a variety of things that seem like weak evidence to me. While I am sure details should not be provided, can you clarify whether you have non-public information about what happened post 2016 that contradicts what Kelly and Jacy have said publicly about it?