Thanks so much for this, I really enjoyed it! I really like this format and would enjoy seeing more of it.
This isn’t the point, and there’s likely so much behind each vignette that we don’t see, but I so wish for some of these folks that they are able to find e.g. people/mentors who encourage their “dumb questions”, people who want to talk about consciousness, people who can help figure out what to do with doomer-y thoughts, maybe telling aggregators of information about some of the things listed (community health is one for some topics including some cases of bad management, there are others). I wish them luck, encourage finding an information aggregator, and wonder if maybe the comments here might end up with offers to talk about the things people find hard to talk about. I just have a sense that (exempting all the complexity I don’t see) there are people who want to talk about these things and feel open to weird and heterodox views here!
But I know that we’re more talking about vibes and overall incentive gradients and so on. I’m pretty uncertain what systemic solutions would look like here, but I’ll be curious what your poll ends up finding.
I myself have been worried about the social effects of friends working at AI labs and organizations and whether that’s going to make it harder for me or others to criticize that org or have a negative sentiment towards them. Would love to talk more about that some time, especially with people who work at these places!
A small sadness I have (and not sure what there is to do about this, I appreciate the sharing) is that I think I’m pretty likely to remember the unendorsed ones about the same as the endorsed ones, because the vignettes are the memorable bits. Just an unfortunate fact about this kind of thing.
Thanks so much for this, I really enjoyed it! I really like this format and would enjoy seeing more of it.
This isn’t the point, and there’s likely so much behind each vignette that we don’t see, but I so wish for some of these folks that they are able to find e.g. people/mentors who encourage their “dumb questions”, people who want to talk about consciousness, people who can help figure out what to do with doomer-y thoughts, maybe telling aggregators of information about some of the things listed (community health is one for some topics including some cases of bad management, there are others). I wish them luck, encourage finding an information aggregator, and wonder if maybe the comments here might end up with offers to talk about the things people find hard to talk about. I just have a sense that (exempting all the complexity I don’t see) there are people who want to talk about these things and feel open to weird and heterodox views here!
But I know that we’re more talking about vibes and overall incentive gradients and so on. I’m pretty uncertain what systemic solutions would look like here, but I’ll be curious what your poll ends up finding.
I myself have been worried about the social effects of friends working at AI labs and organizations and whether that’s going to make it harder for me or others to criticize that org or have a negative sentiment towards them. Would love to talk more about that some time, especially with people who work at these places!
A small sadness I have (and not sure what there is to do about this, I appreciate the sharing) is that I think I’m pretty likely to remember the unendorsed ones about the same as the endorsed ones, because the vignettes are the memorable bits. Just an unfortunate fact about this kind of thing.