I guess I’m basing my subjective judgement of ‘conspicuous by it’s absence’ by comparing how much inclusivity gets discussed in wider society vs how much it gets discussed in EA. I don’t think a few posts over a few years really cuts the mustard, not when it’s not obvious how much is being done on this issue.
how much inclusivity gets discussed in wider society vs how much it gets discussed in EA.
With the exception of groups which specifically exist for the purpose of promoting inclusivity, I can’t think of any groups which discuss it more than EA.
Heck, even groups like that—e.g., BLM or anti-GamerGate groups or other leftist cultural movements—don’t spend significantly more time worrying about their own inclusivity than EA does.
Animal advocates definitely discuss inclusion in their movement(s) more, or at least more productively. A small organization was even established in the space recently to increase racial inclusion in the movement. EA discussion on the issue has led to far less action and results in a lot more pushback and hostility. If EAs do discuss it more, I’d say the excess is in people expressing frustration and that not going anywhere.
(My source is observation—I have been heavily involved in both communities for several years.)
In terms of wider society, it’s an issue that people and institutions from governments to non-profits that exist to solve the issue to tech companies are putting a lot of discussion and action into. BLM isn’t something separate, it’s part of the discussion in wider society. And IIRC US companies spend $8bn on diversity programs annually. (How effectively they’re spending it is another matter, but the point is it’s getting a lot of attention.)
I guess I’m basing my subjective judgement of ‘conspicuous by it’s absence’ by comparing how much inclusivity gets discussed in wider society vs how much it gets discussed in EA. I don’t think a few posts over a few years really cuts the mustard, not when it’s not obvious how much is being done on this issue.
With the exception of groups which specifically exist for the purpose of promoting inclusivity, I can’t think of any groups which discuss it more than EA.
Heck, even groups like that—e.g., BLM or anti-GamerGate groups or other leftist cultural movements—don’t spend significantly more time worrying about their own inclusivity than EA does.
Animal advocates definitely discuss inclusion in their movement(s) more, or at least more productively. A small organization was even established in the space recently to increase racial inclusion in the movement. EA discussion on the issue has led to far less action and results in a lot more pushback and hostility. If EAs do discuss it more, I’d say the excess is in people expressing frustration and that not going anywhere.
(My source is observation—I have been heavily involved in both communities for several years.)
In terms of wider society, it’s an issue that people and institutions from governments to non-profits that exist to solve the issue to tech companies are putting a lot of discussion and action into. BLM isn’t something separate, it’s part of the discussion in wider society. And IIRC US companies spend $8bn on diversity programs annually. (How effectively they’re spending it is another matter, but the point is it’s getting a lot of attention.)