Thanks for taking the time to respond thoroughly! I sincerely appreciate that.
I can’t quite remember when I read the message sent from the facilitator, but my memory is that it was after the comment was restored (feel free to check on your end if that’s possible). I was slightly bummed out that a comment which took some effort to write was rejected and wasn’t super motivated to respond defending it.
At the time, I was aware that the metaphor was abrasive, but hoped I had sanded off the edges by adding a disclaimer at the start. It can be difficult to balance ‘writing the thing I honestly believe’ with ‘not upset anybody or make them uncomfortable when discussing moral issues 100% of the time.’ I did hum and haw over whether I should post it, but ultimately decided that most people wouldn’t be upset by the metaphor or would even agree with it’s accuracy (given that the meat/dairy industries are both rife with animal sexual abuse). Seeing as how it was interpreted as flame bait / trolling, I somewhat regret posting it.
On a final note; am I able to ask why you would reject it? I.e. do you believe I was trolling or flame baiting? I won’t be insulted either way, but would find it useful going forward to know how I should better write my comments.
Two final notes:
• I am pleased to hear you are considering a rejected content feature.
• I used the word ‘censorship’ in my original short form post and want to underscore that I don’t think it’s intrinsically bad to censor. I.e. the moderation team should be doing some level of censorship (and I suspect most forum users would agree).
Thanks for the feedback! I think moderation is tricky and I’m relatively new at it myself. I’m sad at how long users can get stuck in the queue, and I’d love to improve how fast we resolve moderation questions, but where exactly we draw these lines will probably be a learning process for me, and we’ll continue to iterate on that.
It looks like you submitted the comment on Dec 17, and our facilitator messaged you on Jan 6 (the delay partly being due to people being out for the holidays), and then they approved your comment a little over a week after messaging you. Yeah I agree that this was an edge case, and I don’t think you were being malicious, but I think you could have made your point more productively by, for example, just using “torture”.
I feel that using the rejected content feature would give our team more leeway to be opinionated about shaping the home page of our site (compared to now), and we’d feel somewhat free to reject things that don’t fit the type of discussions we want to see. For example, it looks like LW rejects posts from new users that don’t have a clear introduction. So I think if something is an edge case in the current system, then it would likely get rejected under the other system.
Hello!
Thanks for taking the time to respond thoroughly! I sincerely appreciate that.
I can’t quite remember when I read the message sent from the facilitator, but my memory is that it was after the comment was restored (feel free to check on your end if that’s possible). I was slightly bummed out that a comment which took some effort to write was rejected and wasn’t super motivated to respond defending it.
At the time, I was aware that the metaphor was abrasive, but hoped I had sanded off the edges by adding a disclaimer at the start. It can be difficult to balance ‘writing the thing I honestly believe’ with ‘not upset anybody or make them uncomfortable when discussing moral issues 100% of the time.’ I did hum and haw over whether I should post it, but ultimately decided that most people wouldn’t be upset by the metaphor or would even agree with it’s accuracy (given that the meat/dairy industries are both rife with animal sexual abuse). Seeing as how it was interpreted as flame bait / trolling, I somewhat regret posting it.
On a final note; am I able to ask why you would reject it? I.e. do you believe I was trolling or flame baiting? I won’t be insulted either way, but would find it useful going forward to know how I should better write my comments.
Two final notes:
• I am pleased to hear you are considering a rejected content feature.
• I used the word ‘censorship’ in my original short form post and want to underscore that I don’t think it’s intrinsically bad to censor. I.e. the moderation team should be doing some level of censorship (and I suspect most forum users would agree).
Thanks for the feedback! I think moderation is tricky and I’m relatively new at it myself. I’m sad at how long users can get stuck in the queue, and I’d love to improve how fast we resolve moderation questions, but where exactly we draw these lines will probably be a learning process for me, and we’ll continue to iterate on that.
It looks like you submitted the comment on Dec 17, and our facilitator messaged you on Jan 6 (the delay partly being due to people being out for the holidays), and then they approved your comment a little over a week after messaging you. Yeah I agree that this was an edge case, and I don’t think you were being malicious, but I think you could have made your point more productively by, for example, just using “torture”.
I feel that using the rejected content feature would give our team more leeway to be opinionated about shaping the home page of our site (compared to now), and we’d feel somewhat free to reject things that don’t fit the type of discussions we want to see. For example, it looks like LW rejects posts from new users that don’t have a clear introduction. So I think if something is an edge case in the current system, then it would likely get rejected under the other system.