Sorry, no. I don’t think I’ll be able to sum up my views well quickly either, but here’s a little effort: While there are no doubt improvement in debate methods possible, it’s unlikely format changes will make a significant different to elements like who determines what debates are had, what debates are seen as productive and not, what incentives people have during the debate, how they affect decision making, etc.
If you read the partial list of issues that I think a debate methodology should address, in my first question, you’ll see that it’s not merely format but also issues like who (or what policies) determine what debates are had (a.k.a. starting conditions). The elements you list and imply are more important are actually some of the things I want a debate methodology to address. I agree that those are important.
Makes sense. Part of what I think is that a debate methodology is of limited use for issues like the debate starting conditions, and much can be accomplished for rationality without any formal debate methodology, but I could be wrong.
Based on your other comments, I think we likely agree that sometimes formal rules and policies are not just important but essential; but when I think of those I’m not really thinking of debate methodology. Could just be a lack of imagination from my part though.
Sorry, no. I don’t think I’ll be able to sum up my views well quickly either, but here’s a little effort: While there are no doubt improvement in debate methods possible, it’s unlikely format changes will make a significant different to elements like who determines what debates are had, what debates are seen as productive and not, what incentives people have during the debate, how they affect decision making, etc.
If you read the partial list of issues that I think a debate methodology should address, in my first question, you’ll see that it’s not merely format but also issues like who (or what policies) determine what debates are had (a.k.a. starting conditions). The elements you list and imply are more important are actually some of the things I want a debate methodology to address. I agree that those are important.
Makes sense. Part of what I think is that a debate methodology is of limited use for issues like the debate starting conditions, and much can be accomplished for rationality without any formal debate methodology, but I could be wrong.
Based on your other comments, I think we likely agree that sometimes formal rules and policies are not just important but essential; but when I think of those I’m not really thinking of debate methodology. Could just be a lack of imagination from my part though.