Ben’s original phrasing (“My current understanding is that they’ve had around ~4 remote interns, 1 remote employee, and 2 in-person employees (Alice and Chloe).”) seems clearly to be referring to their total number of employees, not the concurrent number.
I sympathize with how you’re feeling here, and I agree that taking Nonlinear’s word for it without evidence would not have constituted fact-checking, but I think you may be falling into an arguments-as-soldiers mindset. If it’s not overstepping to suggest (and I apologize if it is!), I think it might be helpful to take a step back from this discussion and do something less stressful for a while, so as to hopefully return with less of a sense of urgency.
Yeah, sorry. To be clear I was responding specifically to TracingWoodgrain’s claim which is written in a way that implies concurrent employees. However, the thing I should have done was to be less nitpicky and be like “just to clarify, you probably meant to say ‘if a company has had 21 employees, and someone says it had 7...’”, and then maybe make some response.
Based on TracingWoodgrain’s phrasing, the above does really seem to be talking about concurrent employees, and I care a lot about people not ending up with the wrong impression of that number. Ben’s post does talk about the number of concurrent employees multiple times, so this seemed like a relevant claim.
I do agree that I should have done less of a “gotcha” thing, and instead just tried to clarify the conversation. Conversation gets worse when every sentence gets interpreted in the most adversarial and narrow fashion, and I contributed to that in the above.
I appreciate the suggestion to take a step back. I do care a lot about preventing false narratives from what was written in Ben’s post from taking hold, and which things are substantiated by evidence, because Nonlinear’s post contains such a huge number of inaccurate claims about what Ben, Alice or Chloe said.
Based on the language that TracingWoodgrains used, I did genuinely come to believe that he thought Nonlinear had 21 concurrent employees during the relevant period, and have a draft DM to him where I ask him for clarification on this, because if so, that does seem like a major misunderstanding. Now Tracing has clarified, and I think we can let this discussion rest.
Ben’s original phrasing (“My current understanding is that they’ve had around ~4 remote interns, 1 remote employee, and 2 in-person employees (Alice and Chloe).”) seems clearly to be referring to their total number of employees, not the concurrent number.
I sympathize with how you’re feeling here, and I agree that taking Nonlinear’s word for it without evidence would not have constituted fact-checking, but I think you may be falling into an arguments-as-soldiers mindset. If it’s not overstepping to suggest (and I apologize if it is!), I think it might be helpful to take a step back from this discussion and do something less stressful for a while, so as to hopefully return with less of a sense of urgency.
Yeah, sorry. To be clear I was responding specifically to TracingWoodgrain’s claim which is written in a way that implies concurrent employees. However, the thing I should have done was to be less nitpicky and be like “just to clarify, you probably meant to say ‘if a company has had 21 employees, and someone says it had 7...’”, and then maybe make some response.
Based on TracingWoodgrain’s phrasing, the above does really seem to be talking about concurrent employees, and I care a lot about people not ending up with the wrong impression of that number. Ben’s post does talk about the number of concurrent employees multiple times, so this seemed like a relevant claim.
I do agree that I should have done less of a “gotcha” thing, and instead just tried to clarify the conversation. Conversation gets worse when every sentence gets interpreted in the most adversarial and narrow fashion, and I contributed to that in the above.
I appreciate the suggestion to take a step back. I do care a lot about preventing false narratives from what was written in Ben’s post from taking hold, and which things are substantiated by evidence, because Nonlinear’s post contains such a huge number of inaccurate claims about what Ben, Alice or Chloe said.
Based on the language that TracingWoodgrains used, I did genuinely come to believe that he thought Nonlinear had 21 concurrent employees during the relevant period, and have a draft DM to him where I ask him for clarification on this, because if so, that does seem like a major misunderstanding. Now Tracing has clarified, and I think we can let this discussion rest.