I am not looking for funding—I asked if anyone is interested in running those simulations, or knows someone they could put me in touch with.
I quote from my post directly above: “I’m NOT looking for any funding, either—there’s a decent chance that the cost of the solution is lower than the Federal Government’s increased tax-revenue from hurricane-prevention, so I say that the government should pay for it.”
I’m appalled that multiple times, here now and when I posted originally, after stating that I am NOT seeking funding, I am repeatedly misrepresented as “seeking funding”. It’s a basic respect to read what I actually wrote.
Included in my hope for connections are the relevant academics—I began my search at the EA Berkeley campus chapter. I know that the government would not listen to me without at least a first-pass simulation of my own; and I know that it is ludicrous for me to invest time into developing a skill that others possess, or re-inventing the wheel by making my own simulation. Those are all significantly more wasteful and ineffectual than asking people if they know anyone in related fields—this is because social networks are dense graphs, so only two or three steps away, I am likely to find an appropriate specialist. Your advice is not appropriate.
At no point did I ask the readers to do the work of simulation, or proposing to the government, on my behalf; you used a strawman against me. I am specifically asking if people can look in their social network for anyone with relevant skill-sets, who I might talk to—those skilled folks are the place where I’m likely to find someone who would actually do work, not here on the forums with a string of dismissive ‘help’ and fallacies.
I can think of two main reasons why your posts haven’t resulted in introductions to relevant specialists:
People with those connections haven’t seen your posts.
While such people have seen your posts they don’t consider this opportunity sufficiently promising to pass it on.
While many people do read the Forum it wouldn’t be surprising if no one had seen your post who knew anyone relevant, since there aren’t that many relevant experts. And even if they are, when you give someone an introduction you are staking some of your social capital, and based on your initial post and comments here I would not, personally, be willing to stake such capital.
I had seen that you’d written that you weren’t looking for funding, and my post above doesn’t suggest that you were. Instead, I was suggesting that you do and giving ideas on how you might use funding to make progress on this project. After reading your responses here, however, I withdraw that suggestion.
I apologize for lumping your funding-suggestion along-side others’ funding-misrepresentation. I see that you are looking for ways to make it possible, and funding is what came to mind. Thank you.
(I am still surprised that funding is continually the first topic, after I specify that the government is the best institution to finance such a project. EA would go bankrupt, if they tried to stop hurricanes...)
And, I understand if people don’t consider my proposal promising—I am not demanding that they divert resources, especially funds which are best spent on highest guaranteed impact! Yet, there is a cliquishness in excluding diverse dialogue based upon “social capital/reputation”—I hope you can see that the social graph’s connectivity falls apart when we cut those ties.
It’s also odd that the only data-point used to evaluate me would be the slice of time immediately after I’d been prodded repeatedly. I wish I could hand you the video-tapes of my life, and let you evaluate me rightly. When I am repeatedly misrepresented, defending myself, then you don’t see a representative slice of who I am.
Worst of all, no measure of my persona or character is a measure of the worth of a thought. If I am not a good fit for making it happen, then the best I can do I find someone who fits that well. The idea itself stands or falls on its own merits, and measuring me ignores that. I won’t know if it’s worth doing until I have a simulation, at least. I don’t know how anyone else has certainty on the matter, especially from such a noisy proxy as “perceived tone via text message”.
I am still surprised that funding is continually the first topic, after I specify that the government is the best institution to finance such a project. EA would go bankrupt, if they tried to stop hurricanes...
The reason I brought up funding was not that I thought it might make sense for EAs to fund the entire thing, but that it might allow you to address the reasons your proposal is currently stalled. I gave a few ideas of specific things you might do with funding:
Free up your time to learn how to run a simulation.
Yes, I understand that funding can let me hire people to do that work—and I don’t need funding to free my time. I understand that, if I delay for the sake of doing-it-alone, then I am responsible for that additional harm. It doesn’t make sense for me to run a simulation or lobby by myself; and I’ve been in the position of hiring people, as well as working with people who are internally motivated. I hoped to find the internally motivated people, first—that’s why I asked EA for connections, instead of just posting something on a job site.
I am not looking for funding—I asked if anyone is interested in running those simulations, or knows someone they could put me in touch with.
I quote from my post directly above: “I’m NOT looking for any funding, either—there’s a decent chance that the cost of the solution is lower than the Federal Government’s increased tax-revenue from hurricane-prevention, so I say that the government should pay for it.”
I’m appalled that multiple times, here now and when I posted originally, after stating that I am NOT seeking funding, I am repeatedly misrepresented as “seeking funding”. It’s a basic respect to read what I actually wrote.
Included in my hope for connections are the relevant academics—I began my search at the EA Berkeley campus chapter. I know that the government would not listen to me without at least a first-pass simulation of my own; and I know that it is ludicrous for me to invest time into developing a skill that others possess, or re-inventing the wheel by making my own simulation. Those are all significantly more wasteful and ineffectual than asking people if they know anyone in related fields—this is because social networks are dense graphs, so only two or three steps away, I am likely to find an appropriate specialist. Your advice is not appropriate.
At no point did I ask the readers to do the work of simulation, or proposing to the government, on my behalf; you used a strawman against me. I am specifically asking if people can look in their social network for anyone with relevant skill-sets, who I might talk to—those skilled folks are the place where I’m likely to find someone who would actually do work, not here on the forums with a string of dismissive ‘help’ and fallacies.
I can think of two main reasons why your posts haven’t resulted in introductions to relevant specialists:
People with those connections haven’t seen your posts.
While such people have seen your posts they don’t consider this opportunity sufficiently promising to pass it on.
While many people do read the Forum it wouldn’t be surprising if no one had seen your post who knew anyone relevant, since there aren’t that many relevant experts. And even if they are, when you give someone an introduction you are staking some of your social capital, and based on your initial post and comments here I would not, personally, be willing to stake such capital.
I had seen that you’d written that you weren’t looking for funding, and my post above doesn’t suggest that you were. Instead, I was suggesting that you do and giving ideas on how you might use funding to make progress on this project. After reading your responses here, however, I withdraw that suggestion.
I apologize for lumping your funding-suggestion along-side others’ funding-misrepresentation. I see that you are looking for ways to make it possible, and funding is what came to mind. Thank you.
(I am still surprised that funding is continually the first topic, after I specify that the government is the best institution to finance such a project. EA would go bankrupt, if they tried to stop hurricanes...)
And, I understand if people don’t consider my proposal promising—I am not demanding that they divert resources, especially funds which are best spent on highest guaranteed impact! Yet, there is a cliquishness in excluding diverse dialogue based upon “social capital/reputation”—I hope you can see that the social graph’s connectivity falls apart when we cut those ties.
It’s also odd that the only data-point used to evaluate me would be the slice of time immediately after I’d been prodded repeatedly. I wish I could hand you the video-tapes of my life, and let you evaluate me rightly. When I am repeatedly misrepresented, defending myself, then you don’t see a representative slice of who I am.
Worst of all, no measure of my persona or character is a measure of the worth of a thought. If I am not a good fit for making it happen, then the best I can do I find someone who fits that well. The idea itself stands or falls on its own merits, and measuring me ignores that. I won’t know if it’s worth doing until I have a simulation, at least. I don’t know how anyone else has certainty on the matter, especially from such a noisy proxy as “perceived tone via text message”.
The reason I brought up funding was not that I thought it might make sense for EAs to fund the entire thing, but that it might allow you to address the reasons your proposal is currently stalled. I gave a few ideas of specific things you might do with funding:
Free up your time to learn how to run a simulation.
Free up your time to for lobbying.
Exploring existing work on hurricane prevention.
Hiring someone else to do any of the above.
Yes, I understand that funding can let me hire people to do that work—and I don’t need funding to free my time. I understand that, if I delay for the sake of doing-it-alone, then I am responsible for that additional harm. It doesn’t make sense for me to run a simulation or lobby by myself; and I’ve been in the position of hiring people, as well as working with people who are internally motivated. I hoped to find the internally motivated people, first—that’s why I asked EA for connections, instead of just posting something on a job site.