So me and some other EAs just talked to the person in the tweet that got rejected.
Far as I could tell they have a stellar “EA resume” and was even encouraged to apply by leaders in their EA community.
Why were they rejected? What is this “specific bar for admissions and everyone above that bar gets admitted” and why are so many applying and then surprised when they don’t meet this bar? Or is my perception off here?
This isn’t an accusation. I’m in the camp that thinks the conference should not be a free-for-all. But I can’t figure out why the person in the tweet would be rejected from EAG. And as a community organiser it would be great if I can know how best to help the bright-eyed enthusiastic young promising students in my community get into EAG.
See also my other comment asking if the rejection process is possibly too opaque. Maybe that’s the real issue here. Imagine if every person who got rejected knew exactly why and what they could do to not get rejected next time. I almost feel like we wouldn’t be having this discussion because far fewer people would be upset.
I can see why people are confused by this situation. I don’t think it would be appropriate for me to give more detail publicly — it’s our policy to not discuss the specifics of people’s applications with other people besides them.
We do want people who aren’t sure if they’ll get in, including students, to apply! But we suggest they should also consider applying to their nearest EAGx and not only to EAG.
We don’t plan to tell people a recipe for getting accepted beyond the overall info we share with everyone about the event and the application process, and info about getting more involved in events like EAGx and local groups for people who have been away from the community for a while or who aren’t yet that involved.
In some cases, the things that would need to change aren’t realistic to change. In other cases, telling people essentially what we want to hear would largely defeat the purpose of those aspects of the application.
We know people are concerned and confused sometimes about EAG rejections. Sometimes there are genuine uncertainties. In our experience, in many of the cases where people have been upset, there were clear reasons to reject them that we cannot share based on background or behavior, and we would recommend keeping that hypothesis in mind.
So me and some other EAs just talked to the person in the tweet that got rejected.
Far as I could tell they have a stellar “EA resume” and was even encouraged to apply by leaders in their EA community.
Why were they rejected? What is this “specific bar for admissions and everyone above that bar gets admitted” and why are so many applying and then surprised when they don’t meet this bar? Or is my perception off here?
This isn’t an accusation. I’m in the camp that thinks the conference should not be a free-for-all. But I can’t figure out why the person in the tweet would be rejected from EAG. And as a community organiser it would be great if I can know how best to help the bright-eyed enthusiastic young promising students in my community get into EAG.
See also my other comment asking if the rejection process is possibly too opaque. Maybe that’s the real issue here. Imagine if every person who got rejected knew exactly why and what they could do to not get rejected next time. I almost feel like we wouldn’t be having this discussion because far fewer people would be upset.
I can see why people are confused by this situation. I don’t think it would be appropriate for me to give more detail publicly — it’s our policy to not discuss the specifics of people’s applications with other people besides them.
We do want people who aren’t sure if they’ll get in, including students, to apply! But we suggest they should also consider applying to their nearest EAGx and not only to EAG.
We don’t plan to tell people a recipe for getting accepted beyond the overall info we share with everyone about the event and the application process, and info about getting more involved in events like EAGx and local groups for people who have been away from the community for a while or who aren’t yet that involved.
In some cases, the things that would need to change aren’t realistic to change. In other cases, telling people essentially what we want to hear would largely defeat the purpose of those aspects of the application.
We know people are concerned and confused sometimes about EAG rejections. Sometimes there are genuine uncertainties. In our experience, in many of the cases where people have been upset, there were clear reasons to reject them that we cannot share based on background or behavior, and we would recommend keeping that hypothesis in mind.