I am actually in favor of a shape up or ship out policy with stuff like this. I replied to Gregory_Lewis with: “I strongly relate to your concerns about the damage that could be done if InIn does not improve. I have severely limited my own involvement with InIn because of the same things you describe. My largest time contribution by far has been in giving InIn feedback about reputation problems and general quality. A while back, I felt demoralized with the problems, myself, and decided to focus more on other things instead. That Gleb is getting so much attention for these problems right now has potential to be constructive.” … “Perhaps I didn’t get the memo, but I don’t think we’ve tried organizing in order to demand specific constructive actions first before talking about shutting down Intentional Insights and/or driving Gleb out of the EA movement.”
One of the main reasons I have hope is because I’ve given this specific class of problem, social status instinct differences, a lot of thought. I have seen people improve. I think I am able to explain enough to Gleb to help get him on the right track. I have decided to give it a shot. We’ll see if it works.
I am actually in favor of a shape up or ship out policy with stuff like this. I replied to Gregory_Lewis with: “I strongly relate to your concerns about the damage that could be done if InIn does not improve. I have severely limited my own involvement with InIn because of the same things you describe. My largest time contribution by far has been in giving InIn feedback about reputation problems and general quality. A while back, I felt demoralized with the problems, myself, and decided to focus more on other things instead. That Gleb is getting so much attention for these problems right now has potential to be constructive.” … “Perhaps I didn’t get the memo, but I don’t think we’ve tried organizing in order to demand specific constructive actions first before talking about shutting down Intentional Insights and/or driving Gleb out of the EA movement.”
(Perhaps you didn’t read all of my comments because this thread has too many to read but that one is located here: http://effective-altruism.com/ea/12z/concerns_with_intentional_insights/8o8)
One of the main reasons I have hope is because I’ve given this specific class of problem, social status instinct differences, a lot of thought. I have seen people improve. I think I am able to explain enough to Gleb to help get him on the right track. I have decided to give it a shot. We’ll see if it works.