Totally! I agree that this situation would change again as soon as OP were to find other donors who would feel comfortable filling in the gaps, or deferring to OP in the way you had previously deferred your funding allocation to OP. But such a donor does not currently exist, and as such, the situation has very importantly changed, which is what I understood Nathan to be asking about.
I don’t think it’s true that no other donors exist for these areas. My understanding is Alexander and his colleagues are engaging some folks already and expect to get more inbounds now that this is better known.
It seems clear you actually do not want them to recruit donors for the grantees you’re focused on, which is ok, but there are also areas that have nothing to do with you.
I am pretty sure that the donors that Open Phil is talking to would not meaningfully undo the huge shift in OPs relationship to its own cost-effectiveness estimates. Maybe you disagree here, I would be happy to bet about survey outcomes of OP staff.
It seems clear you actually do not want them to recruit donors for the grantees you’re focused on
I am not sure what you mean by this. I would love for Open Phil staff to find additional donors for domains I support. I also think that donor would then probably be well-advised to hire away some of the OP staff, or hire additional staff of their own, and my guess is would end up with a very different relationship than you have to OP, but that doesn’t really bear on the question of whether I would OP staff to try to recruit donors for these things. I would like to see more funding to stuff that I care about, including from OP.
Oh sorry I wasn’t speaking precisely enough—I only meant you wouldn’t want them working with OP and would advise them not to. I didn’t mean to put words in your mouth and I agree they could help recruit a donor to work with another group.
Ah, cool. Yeah, that makes sense. I think that’s my current position, though to be clear, I am far from confident on this, it’s just my best guess about how to navigate the (to me) very tricky seeming dynamics here.
The question is inseparable from the lack of other donors. Of course it is true right now, because they have no one else to refer the grants to.
FWIW I certainly agree with “non-trivial”; “huge” is a judgment call IMO. We’ll see!
Totally! I agree that this situation would change again as soon as OP were to find other donors who would feel comfortable filling in the gaps, or deferring to OP in the way you had previously deferred your funding allocation to OP. But such a donor does not currently exist, and as such, the situation has very importantly changed, which is what I understood Nathan to be asking about.
I don’t think it’s true that no other donors exist for these areas. My understanding is Alexander and his colleagues are engaging some folks already and expect to get more inbounds now that this is better known.
It seems clear you actually do not want them to recruit donors for the grantees you’re focused on, which is ok, but there are also areas that have nothing to do with you.
I am pretty sure that the donors that Open Phil is talking to would not meaningfully undo the huge shift in OPs relationship to its own cost-effectiveness estimates. Maybe you disagree here, I would be happy to bet about survey outcomes of OP staff.
I am not sure what you mean by this. I would love for Open Phil staff to find additional donors for domains I support. I also think that donor would then probably be well-advised to hire away some of the OP staff, or hire additional staff of their own, and my guess is would end up with a very different relationship than you have to OP, but that doesn’t really bear on the question of whether I would OP staff to try to recruit donors for these things. I would like to see more funding to stuff that I care about, including from OP.
Oh sorry I wasn’t speaking precisely enough—I only meant you wouldn’t want them working with OP and would advise them not to. I didn’t mean to put words in your mouth and I agree they could help recruit a donor to work with another group.
Ah, cool. Yeah, that makes sense. I think that’s my current position, though to be clear, I am far from confident on this, it’s just my best guess about how to navigate the (to me) very tricky seeming dynamics here.