I don’t know much about emerging market bonds so I can’t make any confident claims, but I can say how I am thinking out it for my personal portfolio. I considered holding emerging market bonds because the yield spread between them and and developed-market bonds is unusually high. I decided not to hold them because I don’t think they provide enough diversification benefit in the tails. Since I invest with leverage, it doesn’t necessarily make sense for me to maximally diversify, I only hold assets if I think the benefit overcomes the extra cost of leverage. But I do believe it might make sense to hold emerging bonds for someone with a less leveraged, more diversified portfolio. That said, I would consider them a “risky” asset, not a “safe” asset, and plan accordingly.
The drawdowns of major ETFs on this (e.g. EMB / JNK) during the corona crash or 2008 are roughly 2⁄3 to 3⁄4 of how much stocks (the S&P 500) went down. So I agree the diversification benefit is limited. The question, bracketing the point on leverage extra cost, is whether the positive EV of emerging markets bonds / high yield bonds is more or less than 2⁄3 to 3⁄4 of the positive EV of stocks. That’s pretty hard to say—there’s a lot of uncertainty on both sides. But if that is the case and one can borrow at very good rates (e.g. through futures or box spread financing) then the best portfolio should be a levered up combination of bonds & stocks rather than just stocks.
FWIW, I’m in a similar position regarding my personal portfolio; I’ve so far not invested in these asset classes but am actively considering it.
I don’t know much about emerging market bonds so I can’t make any confident claims, but I can say how I am thinking out it for my personal portfolio. I considered holding emerging market bonds because the yield spread between them and and developed-market bonds is unusually high. I decided not to hold them because I don’t think they provide enough diversification benefit in the tails. Since I invest with leverage, it doesn’t necessarily make sense for me to maximally diversify, I only hold assets if I think the benefit overcomes the extra cost of leverage. But I do believe it might make sense to hold emerging bonds for someone with a less leveraged, more diversified portfolio. That said, I would consider them a “risky” asset, not a “safe” asset, and plan accordingly.
The drawdowns of major ETFs on this (e.g. EMB / JNK) during the corona crash or 2008 are roughly 2⁄3 to 3⁄4 of how much stocks (the S&P 500) went down. So I agree the diversification benefit is limited. The question, bracketing the point on leverage extra cost, is whether the positive EV of emerging markets bonds / high yield bonds is more or less than 2⁄3 to 3⁄4 of the positive EV of stocks. That’s pretty hard to say—there’s a lot of uncertainty on both sides. But if that is the case and one can borrow at very good rates (e.g. through futures or box spread financing) then the best portfolio should be a levered up combination of bonds & stocks rather than just stocks.
FWIW, I’m in a similar position regarding my personal portfolio; I’ve so far not invested in these asset classes but am actively considering it.